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A los britanicos no se les accidento tambien un avion??
Yo creo que si alguien ha defendido la necesidad de que España en un futuro a medio plazo se implique de forma directa en el marco furtivo tripulado, he sido yo. Ese futuro a medio plazo pasa sin duda por el F-35. Ahora bien, no soy partidario de aplicar el pensamiento único en ninguna materia.
Sigo creyendo firmemente que el siguiente escalón que subamos nos dejará en la esfera de la furtividad tripulada, de la mano del avión de Lockheed. Ahora bien, no hay que mezclar el concepto furtivo con el convencional. No tiene sentido identificarlos, medirlos y enfrentarlos porque no hay comparación posible, ya que trabajan en base a leyes diferentes, absolutamente opuestas en la mayor parte de los casos. Cometer ése es un error fundamental, angular y básico.
Respecto a los comentarios despectivos acerca del Tifón (p.ej. afirmando que equivale a un Flanker o Fulcrum "tuneado"), hay que estar muy lejos del avión, de las tripulaciones y del resto del personal técnico, para afirmar tales tonterías y mentiras.
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METEORSWARM escribió:No he visto ni conozco el funcionamiento de eyeccion del biplaza,creo firmemente que el sistema de eyeccion en el biplaza se puede mejorar y que si alguno de los pilotos efectuo la eyeccion,la eyeccion del piloto que queda deberia ser temporizada,indiferentemente de si queda inconciente o activa o no la manilla de eyeccion.
No solo eso creo que el sistema en biplaza deberia ser un sistema automatizado(A,B,C).1 Para evitar la eyeccion sincronizada de ambos asientos,que podrian golpearse o inutilizar los paraicas de uno o de ambos.
A.Uno de los pilotos activa la eyeccion,B los pilotos reciben un aviso de unos segundos,el piloto posterior es eyectado,a los 3 o mas segundos se eyecta el piloto que va al frente del caza.C El sistema debe funcionar incluso sin presencia de tension electrica independientemente.
D.El problema de ....no entiendo porque el piloto no le dio a la anilla se acabo indiferentemente de quien pulsara la anilla,quien estea consciente o inconsciente o quien no da llegado a activar la anilla por las fuerza de la gravedad o los g sufridos.
Si ingenieria no ha caido en esto es para "matarlos".
Saludos
Falklands, ‘a really valuable training' theatre for the £ 75 million Typhoon
IT'S almost a year since the Typhoon aircraft took up the role of air defence of the Falkland Islands, and their presence is a source of great pride with Falklands' residents. The aircraft, costing in the region of £75 million each, patrol the skies and undertake valuable training on a daily basis.
For the past four months Squadron Leader Steve Pook has been in charge of the aircraft which were flown to the Islands in September 2009 clocking up an historic flight for British aviation. Steve (40) has just completed his sixth and probably final tour on the Falklands, and is proud to have commanded a squadron of the world's most capable swing-role combat aircraft.
Sharon Jaffray from the Penguin News interviews Squadron Leader Steve Pook.
How does flying here compare to elsewhere in the world?
The weather makes it interesting, and can catch us out, as you saw in June when we were diverted to South America. But flying around here is great. There is not much traffic, no controlled air space issues to deal with, apart from the ranges and wildlife sanctuaries which have to be avoided. We get a lot more low level flying here than in UK, which is really valuable training for us. In the UK most of the flying we do is high end and fighting against other aircraft. Here the threat is of a much lower order so that is what we train for. We have some top end limits on winds we can fly in, mainly because if we eject we'll be killed, and of course cross winds for landing, but generally the wind is in the west which is OK for the runway here.
The Typhoon is very agile and uses a lot of lift off the wings, but the downside to that is that it is susceptible to high winds on the runway. However, these are training limitations. Operationally if we have to go, we go.
If you were to plan a scenic flight around the Islands where would you go?
I'd head out over Head of the Bay Brook and into San Carlos. I'd then cross the Sound onto what we call A4 Alley and fly down Coast Ridge. It's beautiful flying down there. And then for pure scenery I'd fly over Weddell Island and the Arch Islands.
The Top Gun movie is famous for the nicknames the American pilots had. Do British pilots have nicknames?
We do, but they are nowhere near as imaginative as the Americans who tend to get theirs when they are passing out because of something they have done. Ours tend to be name related.
Do you give the aircraft names?
Yes. Faith, Hope, Charity and Desperation, for example, and they have personalities too. Despo is the sickly bird in the fleet. If any of them is going to break it will be her. She hasn't flown as much as the others because she does get poorly.
Faith and Hope are the two that went to South America so they were well named, and Charity is a worker, but Despo is my little sickly child.
When did you know you wanted to be a pilot?
I flirted with the idea briefly when I was very young, but I actually wanted to be a geologist. Then I changed my mind as I was approaching 21. My dad was with the Air Force and worked for British Airways, and he said they were crying out for pilots so I thought I would give it a go. I passed their aptitude test and they passed it on to the RAF. I joined the RAF to fly helicopters, but it was at a time when we were reducing
in size and it was fast jet or bust. If you didn't make fast jet you weren't going to be a pilot. Thank goodness for that, because I have had an amazing time.
What qualities do you need to become a fast jet pilot need?
The specific thing is capacity '' the ability to deal with a lot of different bits of information while still carrying out the task. In my job the flying is very much secondary. To be honest, anyone could fly a Typhoon, it's a doodle.
The problem comes when you have to start fighting and there's a lot of information thrown at you to deal with; multi-tasking. Confidence is important too. It was when I became confident in my decision making I realised I was probably going to be OK as a fast jet pilot. I had a lot of trouble during basics because I struggled to make a decision. My instructor told me to just make a decision. It didn't matter if it was the right or wrong one because you can always correct it. Just get into the habit of making a decision.
Multi-tasking is most often attributed to women. Are there any female Typhoon pilots?
Just the one at the moment: Helen Seymour, an ex-Tornado pilot. She was here around Christmas time and is a very good pilot.
What advice would you give to a young person who would like to become a pilot?
Go to university and get a degree. You need to be good at and practice mental arithmetic. Not just adding numbers up, but what we call mental dead reckoning. Be able to look at a map and calculate distance and time, etc. Play a lot of computer games for hand eye coordination, which should be very easy for most kids. It's a useful tool, but don't play too many as you have to work and study to get the grades too. Flight simulators are also useful because some of the aptitude tests will have you looking at similar instruments, so getting used to them is a good piece of training. But, most importantly, don't let your education suffer.
Is the Typhoon the best in the world?
Bar the most expensive, the fifth generation American Raptor, the Typhoon, as what we call a fourth generation fighter, is the best.
What gives it that edge?
The Typhoon has power '' it's got great engines and of course the air frame. It's highly agile unlike most of the aircraft we have had in the past. Together it means it can carry a lot of stores without degrading the performance of the aircraft. It allows us to fight in the places we want to be able to fight. High or low and fast while carrying a lot of stuff. It turns like crazy and has got loads of power. It's just brilliant.
What's next for you?
This is my last flying job in the RAF. I'm going back to a desk job in September until I leave the Air Force '' it's my time so I am moving on. I'm on what's called the career spine and my chances of flying now are reducing. Once you get to a certain rank, flying jobs become fewer and fewer. I'm looking at more and more desk jobs and that is not what I joined the Air Force to do. I'll fly for fun but I am not going to the airlines or anything like that.
Play a lot of computer games for hand eye coordination, which should be very easy for most kids. It's a useful tool, but don't play too many as you have to work and study to get the grades too.
Orel escribió:Gracias Champi.Play a lot of computer games for hand eye coordination, which should be very easy for most kids. It's a useful tool, but don't play too many as you have to work and study to get the grades too.
Vivan el Guitar Hero y los GTA
En la página web del EFA tenéis unos vídeos curiosos sobre la historia de las fuerzas aéreas de los 4 socios:
http://www.eurofighter.com/media/video-library.html
(long version air power Spanish documentary)
[url]http://www.eurofighter.com/media/video-library.html?tx_mmdamfilelist_pi1[showUid]=823&cHash=a3595b2d4475bd76dc52e4883ce0d0fd[/url]
(descargables en los enlaces de la parte inferior de la pantalla)
Un saludo
19:55 GMT, September 6, 2010 Luton | SELEX Galileo, a Finmeccanica Company, has been awarded a contract by BAE Systems worth circa £400M to supply the Praetorian Defensive Aids Sub System (DASS) in support of the Tranche 3A Eurofighter Typhoons.
Designed specifically for the Typhoon, the Praetorian DASS comprises Electronic Counter Measures (ECM), Electronic Support Measures (ESM) and Missile Approach Warning (MAW) elements. It provides an unmatched level of situational awareness and protection for Typhoon crews.
SELEX Galileo is the lead Contractor and system Design Authority for Praetorian. The Company leads the EuroDASS Consortium (made up of Elettronica, Indra Sistemas, EADS and SELEX Galileo) which shares the production of more than 20 major Line Replaceable Items (LRIs) that make up the Praetorian system.
The contract will see the first Praetorian delivery taking place in mid 2012. The systems will be supplied to all 4 partner nations; the UK, Italy, Spain and Germany.
Under this agreement, these Tranche 3A Praetorian systems shall be delivered to the same standard as those delivered for the Tranche 2 programme. The systems are provisioned with the capacity for future capability enhancements which are aligned to current and future customer needs.
“This contract award represents a significant achievement for the EuroDASS consortium and reflects the confidence that the partner nations and Typhoon crews place in the Praetorian system”said SELEX Galileo CEO Steve Mogford, adding “I'm proud that the relationships we've developed with our consortium partners, customers and end users have resulted in such a successful, effective and life-saving systemâ€.
By Craig Hoyle
The UK Royal Air Force has released the first images of three Eurofighter Typhoons in the markings of its newly reformed 6 Sqn.
To deliver full-time quick reaction alert (QRA) cover for the northern UK from March 2011, the aircraft are pictured departing the RAF's Typhoon main operating base at Coningsby in Lincolnshire for their new home at Leuchars in Scotland.
© Sgt Pete Mobbs/Crown Copyright
© SAC Andrew Seaward/Crown Copyright
“6 Sqn's main focus over the coming months will be preparing to deliver quick reaction alert,”says station commander Air Cdre Harry Atkinson. The unit will eventually total around 200 personnel, and is the first of three Typhoon squadrons to be established at Leuchars.
The 6 Sqn Typhoons are due to play a starring role by opening the Leuchars air show on 11 September. Previously equipped with the Sepecat Jaguar until 2007, the unit was reformed at the base on 6 September. Its aircraft will deliver QRA services currently being provided by the Panavia Tornado F3s of 111 Sqn.
(Source: BAE Systems; issued September 7, 2010)
RAF CONINGSBY, UK ''-- BAE Systems has successfully delivered a crucial element in the Typhoon Availability Service (TAS) in partnership with the UK Royal Air Force (RAF), giving key weapons systems support - vital to maintaining the RAF's front-line capability.
The formal acceptance of the Weapons Systems Support Rig (WSSR) by the UK RAF is a significant milestone for the joint Typhoon aircraft team, which also marks the one-year anniversary since the official in-service date of the TAS.
The rig at RAF Coningsby, Lincolnshire is the size of two tennis courts containing 33 benches and 24 pieces of rig support equipment. This capability was designed, developed and delivered by the BAE Systems team at Warton, Lancashire. It has been through an extensive period of installation, testing and qualification and is now being used to validate mission data and evaluate any avionic issues in support of the operational fleet.
Terry Butchart, BAE Systems' TAS WSSR manager said: “The delivery and official customer acceptance of the rig underlines the Company's capabilities in the area of readiness and sustainment and is the latest in a number of milestones achieved as part of the TAS contract in the past year.
“Over the past months, we have been working very closely with the UK RAF to ensure that we deliver the electronic warfare capability. It is now our task to make sure that the rig is there for the customer whenever they require it. Other vital benefits of the rig are the savings and efficiencies it delivers, particularly through the reduction of test flights required and, unnecessary removal and testing of equipment.â€
Flight Lieutenant Shaun Bates added: “We are now able to improve the effectiveness of Typhoon mission data in a safe, controlled environment. Undertaking flight trials is not always the most cost-effective way of proving the effectiveness of aircraft software and mission data. The WSSR de-risks these trials and gives the Typhoon Force confidence that the improvements will function as designed.â€
España maniobra para quitarle a Reino Unido el 'jugoso' contrato de mantenimeinto de los Eurofighter saudíes. El entrenamiento de sus pilotos en Sevilla es su principal baza
España y Arabia Saudí tienen firmado un convenio para la formación de pilotos de Eurofighter en la base sevillana de Morón de la Frontera. El coste de estos cursos es “irrelevanteâ€, puesto que lo que hay detrás es la intención de ‘ganarse' a los saudíes y hacerse con parte del contrato de mantenimiento de los aparatos, actualmente bajo control británico.
El accidente del pasado mes de agosto de un Eurofighter en la base aérea de Morón (Sevilla) se cobró la vida de un piloto de la fuerza aérea saudí. Surgió entonces el debate sobre qué hace el Ejército del Aire enseñando a pilotar a militares de otros países, y sobre todo cuánto ingresa por ello.
La respuesta que ofrecen desde el Ejército del Aire es que Arabia Saudí es un “firme aliado”de España. Sin embargo, hay algo más tras este convenio de colaboración: España ansía hacerse con el contrato de mantenimiento de los 72 Eurofighter adquiridos por la Royal Saudi Air Force, o al menos parte de ellos.
El mantenimiento y las actualizaciones técnicas las realiza la empresa BAE Systems, responsable del consorcio que fabrica el Eurofighter. El grueso de estas tareas se lleva a cabo en las factorías británicas, pero España optaría a llevarse parte del ‘pastel'.
De hecho, cada socio del proyecto ‘Eurofighter Typhoon' recibe las piezas y las ensambla en sus respectivos países. España lo hace a través de la compañía EADS-CASA. La misma firma que podría optar a hacerse con el millonario contrato de mantenimiento de las aeronaves saudíes para su factoría de Sevilla.
El importe de este contrato sería “muy superior”a lo que está percibiendo el Ministerio de Defensa por las tareas de formación de los pilotos saudíes, según informan a El Confidencial Digital fuentes del Aire que eluden aportar cifras exactas.
Under this agreement, these Tranche 3A Praetorian systems shall be delivered to the same standard as those delivered for the Tranche 2 programme.
Mejoras futuras del DASS (Diciembre de 2007)
- Mejora 1: Sustituir las antenas ESM por otras que permitan polarización dual en recepción, tanto en banda baja como en banda alta. De esta forma se consigue la detección de señales polarizadas circularmente a izquierdas o a derechas, además de cualquier señal de polarización lineal.
- Mejora 2: Extensión del rango de radiofrecuencia en banda baja (hasta la banda G) del señuelo remolcado y aumento de su potencia radiada efectiva.
- Mejora 3: Mejora de las DRFM (Digital Radio Frequency Memory) del subsistema ECM “on boardâ€, con aumento de su potencia radiada efectiva, reducción de espúreos y refinado de las técnicas de perturbación y engaño.
Estas tres primeras mejoras se implementarán en el año 2011, con el primer paquete de mejoras para los aviones de Tranche 2 (la P1Ea) (NOTA: se aplica a todos los T2 entre 2011 y 2013).
- Mejora 4: Extensión del rango de radiofrecuencia del subsistema ESM en su banda baja (hasta la banda C).
- Mejora 5: Sustitución del receptor ESM actual por un receptor digital para mejorar la capacidad de detección (permite detectar señales por debajo del nivel de ruido), mejorar la resolución de ambigí¼edades y añadir la capacidad de localización de emisores (apoyo al “targetingâ€).
Estas mejoras 4 y 5 están previstas para el año 2014, como parte del paquete de opciones que se está negociando actualmente para la Tranche 3 (NOTA: pero como dice la noticia de Champi, el DASS de los T3A no tendrá esas mejoras por el momento).
España maniobra para quitarle a Reino Unido el 'jugoso' contrato de mantenimeinto de los Eurofighter saudíes. El entrenamiento de sus pilotos en Sevilla es su principal baza
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