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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor dacer el Mar Dic 18, 2012 11:15 am

charoska escribió:En ee tipo de contratos, todos los "concursos" están amañados de antemano, pesan mucho más las relaciones políticas y las "económicas" :c4

incluido los del otro lado del charco.

Cuando se junta el dinero y el poder (politico), el resultado siempre es que pagamos los ciudadanos por el producto del amiguito.

es una lacra

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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor poliorcetes el Mar Dic 18, 2012 11:25 am

Obvio, pero yo pago impuestos a este lado del charco y me parece razonable exigir medidas contra la corrupción, el nepotismo, el tráfico de influencias y demás lacras parasitarias que impiden que los recursos se empleen en la población. Casos como la crisis humanitaria en Grecia mientras se mantienen los pagos de los nuevos sistemas de armamento griego claman al cielo, por ejemplo. Y quedándonos aquí en España, si nos deslizáramos hacia el abismo en el que los griegos están ahora, no entendería que no se suspendiera el pago de todo nuevo sistema no comprado (e.g. los tifones que quedan por pagar). Primero va la población y sus necesidades elementales.

Es que parece mentira que haya que decirlo: si pasa como en Grecia que los coles están sin calefacción y los hospitales casi, se debería cortar en seco todo gasto político (rebajas drásticas a sueldos de cargos electos y despido de todos los cargos de confianza, amén de supresión de todo tipo de dietas: un parlamentario no necesita taxi gratis para hacer su trabajo, tiene el jodido metro), así como cortar servicios no esenciales: antes que los niños se queden sin calefacción, habría que pulsar el botón de apagado en todas y cada una de las teles autonómicas.

Me arde la sangre. No es que se discuta el orden de prioridades, que ya sería grave. Es que es indiscutible, y para mal: incluso en este momento, y en lo que nos queda por ver, hay gastos "sagrados" y partidas "recortables". Si un enfermo necesitado de diálisis va al paro (nada raro por doble motivo), o se paga la ambulancia, o le llevan, o va en transporte público a su fabuloso centro sanitario de gestión privada, muchas veces situado fuera de casco urbano
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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor dacer el Mar Dic 18, 2012 12:53 pm

por supuesto, no te lo discuto. Aunque en nuestro caso, creo que si se recorta mas, basicamente es en sueldos de militares, no en adquisiciones. Que muchas de ellas, RG31, lince, son mas de urgencia que de planificacion.

Y lo peor es que el que se tiene que pagar la ambulancia para ir al hospital, no es para que se pueda comprar aqui o alli, sino para que los amiguetes sigan contentos.

lo dicho, una lacra

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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor Edu el Mar Dic 18, 2012 1:37 pm

Vamos por una senda peligrosa que, además, nada tiene que ver con el tema en cuestión.

Dejémoslo aquí, caballeros.
¿Gran guerrero, dices? La guerra no le hace a uno grandioso (Yoda)
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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor poliorcetes el Mar Dic 18, 2012 1:49 pm

Por mi parte, siento no haber predicado con el ejemplo, pero es que me duele España cada vez más :(
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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor Orel el Mar Dic 18, 2012 9:53 pm

Vamos con el artículo de Combat Aircraft:

Gracias Champi! Lo revisaré y os cuento.
Como véis, he estado fuera unos días pero aquí estamos otra vez :wink:
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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor champi el Mar Dic 18, 2012 11:47 pm

Ya casi se te echaba de menos :b1
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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor Orel el Mié Dic 19, 2012 7:01 pm

:wink:

- Ya también en medios españoles:
El caza Eurofighter apuesta fuerte por Omán y Emiratos Árabes Unidos
12/12/2012
Omán podría acordar la compra de 12 Eurofighter Typhoon antes de que acabe el año.
...
Emiratos Árabes Unidos... quizás, hasta 60 aviones.
http://www.infodefensa.com/cache_notici ... nidos.html

- General Electric a punto de comprar Avio, empresa de motores italiana que participa en su parte del motor EJ200: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/12/1 ... ZF20121217
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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor Orel el Jue Dic 20, 2012 1:19 am

:arrow: ¡La venta a Omán parece inminente, tanto que esperan firmarla mañana, 21 de diciembre!:
Oman Will Soon Buy Typhoons, Hawks
Dec. 19, 2012
BAE Systems is preparing to close a deal with Oman to supply Typhoon fighters and Hawk jet trainers to the country’s air force.
The deal, expected to be signed in Oman on Dec. 21, is part of a wider defense pact due to be inked by the two governments that day, said industry sources who asked not to be named.
Oman will receive the latest Tranche 3 version of the Typhoon
http://www.defensenews.com/article/2012 ... |FRONTPAGE

Será una docena aprox., Tranche 3 (totalizando 571 Tifones contratados). La noticia también afirma que las entregas a Arabia Saudita recomenzarían el año que viene (por ahora tienen 24 de los 72 contratados y ahí pararon temporalmente. Por ahora la negociación por el precio de los restantees anda estancada.).
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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor dacer el Vie Dic 21, 2012 11:31 am

http://www.eurofighter.com/media/news0/ ... tomer.html
Press Release - Eurofighter Typhoon Welcomes Oman as a New Customer

Friday, 21. December 2012

The Eurofighter community welcomes Oman as a new member to join the international defence programme. Oman will become the seventh customer to operate the world’s most advanced new generation swing-role/multi-role combat aircraft.


On behalf of the Eurofighter consortium and its European Partner Companies (EPC) the CEO of Eurofighter, Enzo Casolini, said: “We are pleased to welcome Oman as the newest member of our Eurofighter family. Eurofighter Typhoon is an exceptional aircraft and is already proven and trusted by six nations to effectively perform in all operational environments. This is wonderful news and another milestone in the history of our successful programme. We are looking forward to developing a long-term partnership with the Royal Air Force of Oman.”

Since entry-into-service in 2004, more than 340 aircraft have been delivered to six nations: the UK, Germany, Italy, Spain and export customers Austria and Saudi Arabia. There are now 20 Eurofighter Operating Units all over the world. So far the worldwide Eurofighter fleet has achieved over 160,000 flying hours.


http://www.eurofighter.com/media/news0/ ... craft.html
Press Release - BAE SYSTEMS WELCOMES OMAN ORDER FOR TYPHOON AND HAWK AIRCRAFT
Friday, 21. December 2012

BAE Systems welcomes the decision by the Sultanate of Oman to purchase 12 Typhoon and eight Hawk Advanced Jet Trainer (AJT) aircraft. This contract is further recognition that both Typhoon and Hawk are leading aircraft in their class, providing the best capabilities available.




As well as supplying aircraft, BAE Systems will provide in-service support to the Royal Air Force of Oman’s (RAFO) operational tasks.

Deliveries are expected to commence in 2017.

Responding to the announcement Guy Griffiths, Group Managing Director for BAE Systems’ International business said: “Receiving this contract is an honour and is excellent news for both BAE Systems and the Eurofighter Typhoon consortium. BAE Systems has a long history of working in Oman and we are delighted this contract will enable us to continue to work together. We believe that Oman has now added the most advanced fighter jet and proven training aircraft, available in the world, to its military portfolio.

“We look forward to working in partnership with Oman’s Ministry of Defence, and the Royal Air Force of Oman, to ensure this is a highly successful programme that maximises the potential of both Hawk and Typhoon.”

Oman becomes the seventh country in the world, and the second in the Middle East, to operate the Typhoon, joining the air forces of the United Kingdom, Germany, Italy, Spain, Austria and Saudi Arabia.

This order of Hawk AJT’s follows an order from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in May of this year. This order takes the total number of Hawk aircraft sold, or on order, to 998.

This announcement also strengthens the long standing relationship between BAE Systems and the Sultanate of Oman. Oman currently operates Jaguar fighter aircraft and trains pilots on an earlier variant of the BAE Systems Hawk.
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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor Orel el Vie Dic 21, 2012 4:02 pm

:arrow: Pues ya está firmado :b4 Son 9 monoplazas y 3 biplazas Tranche 3 para entregar a partir de 2017, haciendo un total de 571 Tifones contratados por 7 países, 3 de ellos de exportación.
A ver si eso anima a EAU y Arabia.

Imagen


- Apoyando la oferta a EAU y al acuerdo de defensa recién firmado, Reino Unido podría desplegar tropas a ese país, como se dejó caer hace unas semanas. Lo ha anunciado también hoy Cameron: http://hispantv.com/detail/2012/12/21/206276/default

- Por cierto, como también os había anunciado, GE acaba de comprar Avio: http://www.eleconomista.es/empresas-fin ... lones.html
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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor Orel el Sab Dic 22, 2012 1:52 pm

EVOLUCIÓN EUROFIGHTER TYPHOON DESDE 2011

Detalles del artículo de Combat Aircraft (enero 2013) de jon lake:
http://es.scribd.com/doc/115896090/Lake ... ol-14-No-1
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(Más información sobre la P1E y futuro aquí y aquí2)

(Otro, de diciembre de 2012: http://es.scribd.com/doc/142050865/Lake ... ation-News)

(Y más, especial de 60 páginas de AIR International de noviembre de 2013: http://depositfiles.com/files/v604i530t )

:arrow: Especifica por fin en qué consisten los 3 primeros "drops" de la Tranche 1 (los drops 4 y 5 aún no se sabe). Os recuerdo que para la T1 son mejoras que acercan los T1 a la T2 con P1E, aunque en algunas cosas son mejores y ésas se incluyen en la P1E en adelante. Y recuerdo que todas las mejoras citadas (drops, P1E, P2E...) son básicamente mejoras de software de los distintos ordenadores del caza:

Drop 1 (sólo RU):
- Pequeñas mejoras en el interfaz hombre-máquina.
- Mejora del MIDS.
- Mejora la integración con el pod LDP.
- Y mejora la integración del visor de casco.
- Mejoras paralelas pero aparte del DASS y del radar, ésta denominada R2P (en los Tranche 2 se denomina T2P).
El drop 1 fue desplegado por los ingleses en Libia 2011.

Drop 2 (se une Alemania):
- Mejora la conciencia situacional en aire-aire
- Actualizaciones menores para muchos sistemas de aviónica, incluyendo pantallas, controles, AIS (sistema de ataque e identificación), DASS y comunicaciones.
- Mejora en disponibilidad y sostenimiento del caza.
El drop 2 ha entrado en servicio con RU este año 2012 (no, se integró por primera vez en los nueve T1 que enviaron a EEUU a principios de 2013 (Western Zephyr y Red Flag) junto a la mejora R2Q del radar, y a partir de ahí se lo pondrán a los demás: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... ag-383289/).

En este artículo de Jamie Hunter sobre ese Red Flag: http://es.scribd.com/doc/142050919/Hunt ... ol-14-No-5
Sobre el Drop 2: es un "mejorador" de la situational awareness (enhancer). Un cambio mayor del mismo es el modo en que se presenta la información en cabina. También se ha cambiado algo de los modos de armamento aire-suelo y se han añadido más funciones del pod Litening al sistema HOTAS.
En este otro artículo lo confirman: http://es.scribd.com/doc/142050900/Hunt ... ernational

Y más sobre el Drop 2 de AIR International de noviembre de 2013, a raíz del Red Flag:
No XI Squadron deployed with eight single-seat Typhoon FGR4s configured to exactly the same standard and one two-seat Typhoon T3, which had some slight differences. The aircraft were running SRP 4.3 Drop 2 software (the latest standard for Tranche 1 aircraft) and loaded with the R2Q radar processor upgrade – which was planned in accordance with the aircraft’s overall development programme and was not loaded specifically for the American deployment.
Drop 2 provides better display functionality in the air-to-air and air-to-surface domains by delivering more pertinent information at a more appropriate time. Information fed by the radar is one example. Another involves the display of clear circles around those aircraft tagged as co-operative friendly assets within the battlespace fed by the data link and shown by the HEA (head equipment assembly). The pertinence of the displayed symbology gives the pilot much greater situational awareness and minimises the number of inputs he or she has to make into the jet.
The amount of work involved loading the Drop 2 and R2Q software and the time required for fitting each pilot with the helmet meant some jets were not configured for the HEA and some pilots did not have it fitted.


Drop 3 (se unen España e Italia, ya están todos): [es la clave del Evolution Package 1 EP1 de la Tranche 1, pero no de la EP1 de la Tranche 2]

Que se une España en el Drop 3 queda demostrado aquí: http://www.ejercitodelaire.mde.es/ea/pa ... DA003EC4A3
"27/07/2011. Recientemente, el CLAEX ha alcanzado un hito muy importante en este campo, al haber probado con éxito, tanto en tierra como en vuelo, la primera modificación software desarrollada íntegramente en el Centro. Se trata de modificaciones al código de la MIU (MIDS Interface Unit) del C.16 en configuración Tranche 1, solicitadas por pilotos de varios países (Reino Unido, Alemania y España) como parte del programa internacional "Drop 3". Este programa está implementando soluciones software a problemas operativos detectados por los usuarios en los primeros años de servicio del sistema de armas."


- Mejora del radar.
- Mejora del MIDS.
- Mejora del DASS.
- Mejora paralela pero aparte, liderada por RU, del radar denominada R2Q (T2Q en los Tranche 2). (En este artículo http://es.scribd.com/doc/142050919/Hunt ... ol-14-No-5, se afirman que los Typhoon T1B5 ingleses ya fueron a Red Flag en 2013 con el Drop 2 y la mejora R2Q, sin tener el Drop 3. En este artículo http://es.scribd.com/doc/142050900/Hunt ... ernational, lo reconfirman y además un piloto dice: "Estoy realmente impresionado con el radar R2Q. Es un radar asesino.")
Este drop 3 supongo que estará operativo el año que viene (entrando en el '14).

Lo que no sé es, por ejemplo, si España que se ha unido ahora recibirá también los drops 1 y 2 retrospectivamente. Y si el unirse al drop 3 implica que nuestros T1 B5 adquieran la capacidad swing-role "austera" (CP-193) de los ingleses (con pod y bombas duales). Sería lo suyo... Editado: sobre primavera de 2013 los Tifones T1 españoles recibirán el primer software 100% nacional, el OFP-01E, que supongo que incluirá luego el Drop 3, así que le pondremos lo que queramos (http://i46.tinypic.com/1602ur.jpg, fuente: http://www.portalcultura.mde.es/Galeria ... 5_2012.pdf ).


:arrow: Sobre la P1E (A y B) de la Tranche 2, el artículo no añade casi nada nuevo respecto a lo ya puesto en este foro (que he enlazado anteriormente, aquí y aquí2), y confirma qué incluyen de cada drop: La P1EA incluye cosas del drop 1. La P1EB incluye totalmente el drop 1 y cosas de los drops 2 y 3.
La P1E es un cambio brutal en las capacidades del avión y es casi todo cuestión de software, y será la base para toda mejora futura. No sólo lo hace swing-role pleno, especialmente dándole capacidades AS, si no que lo mejora en todo notablemente, también en AA. Es la mayor mejora que recibe el caza desde que entró en servicio.
Os recuerdo que la P1EA estará plenamente introducida a finales de 2013 (lleva volando en pruebas desde este marzo y empezará a introducirse a principios de 2013) y la P1EB a principios de 2014 (lleva volando en pruebas desde este verano).

De Scorpion en su web, básicamente recopilación de las anteriores fuentes: http://www.fast-air.co.uk/typhoon-block ... e-summary/
Phase 1 Enhancement A – P1EA
P1EA is an important milestone for Typhoon and provides the following capabilities and improvements:

Paveway IV integration.
GBU-48 level 1integration.
EGBU-16 PGM level 1 integration.
GBU-10 / GBU-16 integration.
Full Litening III LDP integration.
Ability to strafe with the cannon (with SRP 5.1).
Simultaneous multiple ground and air attack capability (four targets simultaneously or six targets successively).
Helmet targeting (both air to air and air to ground weapons).
IRIS-T phase 2 integration (digital interface).
Autopilot modes to include Approach and CAP.
MIDS (Multifunctional Information Distribution System) enhancements.
Global Positioning System expanded from 12 to 24 channels.
Chaff / flare improvements.
Enhanced ROVER compatibility.
Voice integration increased to 90 commands.
Elements from Drop 1.

Phase 1 Enhancement B – P1EB
P1EB is scheduled to deliver the following enhancements and new capabilities:

New display formats including revised head-down cues.
GPS improvements to counter jamming.
Toss and dive air to ground attack profiles.
Mío: six targets simultaneously.
Improved helmet integration.
Tactical display improvement to provide more information.
MIDS enhancements.
PIRATE upgrade.
Radar upgrade.
Voice integration expanded to over 100 commands.
Integration of a RAIDS pod.
Elements from Drop 2 and Drop 3.

Y un poco más sobre ambas, nada nuevo, del especial de AIR International de noviembre de 2013:
The Phase 1 Enhancement (P1E) programme will give Tranche 2 Typhoons, what BAE Systems describes as seamless air-to-ground integration compared to that incorporated under the austere air-to-ground package.
The P1E also provides full digital integration of the IRIS-T air-to-air missile (MBDA’s Advanced Short Range Air-to-Air Missile has had a digital integration since Tranche 1 Block 5), with high off-bore sight targeting and firing via the head-up display and the helmet. IRIS-T is not a UK requirement.
Improvements to Rover, identification-friend or foe, forward lookinginfrared, chaff/flare and the Defensive Aids Sub-system ( DASS), with improved threat detection accuracy and enhanced countermeasures technologies, are also included in P1E.
The Phase 1 Enhancement will be achieved via two separate software releases (P1EA and P1EB). First up is P1EA, which provides a precision air-to-surface capability. Weapons involved are Raytheon’s Paveway IV precision-guided bomb (UK only), the EGBU-16 laser/GPS-guided bomb and clearance to use the 27mm cannon against ground targets. The Litening 3 targeting pod will also receive better integration with P1EA.
Introduction of P1EA is now under way at RAF Coningsby, Lincolnshire. Typhoon FGR4s currently being upgraded by a joint BAE Systems/RAF Typhoon Maintenance and Upgrade team will be deployed to RAF Leuchars, Fife, before the end of 2013 where they will be used to commence squadron training and familiarisation.

P1EB will further improve Typhoon’s ability to undertake simultaneous air-to air and air-to-ground engagements. Ground and flight testing of P1EB is complete and qualification evidence will be submitted to NETMA before the end of 2013. It is expected to be formally released to service in the middle of 2014. Operational evaluation, including the Paveway IV bomb and Litening 3 targeting pod, by the UK’s Typhoon Combined Test Team is ongoing.
Further avionics integration work [de la Paveway IV en el Typhoon] with subset P1EB, featuring the full interface between the aircraft and the weapon [Paveway IV] with increased GPS capability, is currently under way. P1EB might be delivered to NETMA at the end of this year for the full-up clearance.

Anuncio oficial del fin de las pruebas de la P1E (B): 28 de octubre de 2013. Y estará operativa en diciembre de 2013, al menos en RU.
http://www.eurofighter.com/media/news0/ ... phoon.html
http://www.4-traders.com/EADS-4637/news ... -17404055/

De julio de 2014:
New Avionics For Gripen, Typhoon And Rafale
Jul 7, 2014
http://aviationweek.com/defense/new-avi ... and-rafale
...
"The software product isn’t determined by whether it is a Tranche 2 or Tranche 3 aircraft," Bowman explains. "We’ve completed all the flying on P1E-A, which is in service with the RAF and the Royal Saudi Air Force. And we’ve finished the P1E-B product now and aircraft are entering into service ahead of the U.K.’s requirement of April 1, 2015. Next up is P2E (Phase 2 Enhancements), which brings significant differences in HMI (Human Machine Interface) such as better integration of the helmet, and so on."

U.K. Gears Up For Typhoon Enhancements
Jul 9, 2014
http://aviationweek.com/farnborough-201 ... hancements
...
Approximately a dozen Typhoons are now flying with the P1E software, and the RAF plans to test the capability early next year with a deployment to the Red Flag exercise at Nellis AFB, Nevada.


:arrow: Más sobre Drops, CORP y P1E, del extra de AFM (Air Forces Monthly) de abril 2014 sobre el 20º aniversario del Eurofighter http://filepost.com/files/77951bmf/Eurofighter.pdf/:
Drops

Initially only used by the UK, a Drop was originally a nationally cleared upgrade for Tranche 1 aircraft that is not given our nation clearance, only done in a single partner company and cleared on to that nation’s aircraft through a service engineer modification (SEM). A change to an aircraft cleared by a single nation through national auspices can only be changed by that nation’s EPC.

Although recent Drops have been done nationally changes are not now just by BAE Systems, but by national support centres in Germany, too.

Andy Lumb, BAE’s Head of Typhoon architecture Engineering, explained in 2014, “Drop 1 started in 2009, then came Drop 2 which went out to UK fleet but the Germans took the radar standard to Alaska; Drop 3 is a 24 month programme being rolled out to all four nations and should be released by end of the year and then there is Drop 4.”

Some of the Drop 2 improvements on the German aircraft could not be tested until getting to Eielson AFB – another reason for pushing the aircraft into Distant Frontier.

Such was the rush to get the work done, the two seater-Eurofighter had its software upgrade just two days into the exercise after gaining the necessary authority from German High Command just hours before.

Four Drops:
1. Small displays and controls, symbology color etc
2. Integration updates to radar
3. Tr1 Evolutionary Package 1 (Tr1EP1) which goes right across all core programmes
4. MIDS, attack and identification radar and Tranche 1 developments


IPA1/ZJ699 will in 2014 continue with evolution of software packages and is currently flying Drop 3 and will move onto Drop 4 later in year, which include MIDS and HMSS improvements for Tranche 1 aircraft. The jet is also going to be used for continuation of Meteor BVRAAM firings.


As well as T2EP2, Alenia is also involved in the Drop internationalisation: there have been four Drops which are additional/enhanced functions developed by the nations for Tranche 1. There will be four flights on that and ten for new radar software development. Tranche 3 Common Obsolescence Removal Programme CORP is also being undertaken which will test Tranche 3 equipment loaded with newly developed software like P1Ea and P1Eb.

In terms of avionics, there will be a programme of common obsolescence removal programmes (CORPs) for some avionics boxes, whereby some will come out and new ones go in.

Y sobre la P1E, algo más explicada la diferencia entre P1Ea y b. El detalle de que los T1 B5 ingleses "AS austeros" si cambiaban de modo AS a AA -o viceversa- en vuelo, ya no podían volver al modo anterior, por eso no son swing-role reales:
Until the introduction of P1Ea software in March 2014, none of the four nations had Tranche 2 aircraft with air-to-ground capabilities. [aunque la RAF practicó bombardeo con sus T2 ingleses en primavera de 2013]

On a bombing run, the Tranche 1 aircraft needed to detect with its electronic countermeasures (ECM) any possible fighter threats. However as soon as you detected the enemy aircraft, selected the AMRAAM to shoot, fired it and turned, then went back into the air-to-surface mode the jet’s system didn’t let you. Basically, once you switched out you couldn’t switch in, I call it ‘switch role’.

The P1E integration is split into two. P1Ea, released in 2013, provides the first part of weapons integration and first part of all laser designator pod functional enhancements. P1Ea gives a real swing role attack aircraft with a genuine weapon capability; but not with all the weapon’s potential. The bombs being put on the Eurofighter under P1E, the 2,000lb EGBU 16 Paveway II and 500lb Paveway IVs are very clever because they can detect the target, angle of attack, elevation of attack and change fuse-settings on the aircraft. This is where P1Eb comes in.

“We couldn’t do all that in one go, so we phased it,” says Hilditch. “P1Ea gave the basic bomb capabilities and P1Eb gave all the exciting options.” He goes on. “For example, the customer might want six Paveway IVs to hit a bomb dump, air traffic control, hangars and vehicles in one pass and then, in the cockpit, the pilot will be given a ‘launch acceptable
region’.

“He can say ‘I want to hit the bomb dump with a bomb straight down the chimney, I want to attack the control tower with a bomb at certain angle and I want to take that radar out with an air burst.’ This can be programmed so the system works out the LAR, which gives the bomb enough energy to come in from right, energy from top and/or to do an air burst. Basically, what it wants to do.

“We couldn’t do all that so we gave the beginnings of swing role aircraft in P1Ea and then we gave all the really clever stuff in P1Eb. In the Gulf War we needed six Tornados to do that to an airfield. With a Typhoon you can do it with one aircraft, one pilot and one pass. With an LDP the system automatically drop them in GPS or lases automatically as you pass through, knowing where the first bomb goes, laser moves, hits the next; laser moves, hits next; laser moves, hits the next!”

Development of the Phase 1 Enhancement b (P1Eb) software by BAE Systems will see the first Typhoon with this new configuration being delivered in mid-2014. Air Cdre Waterfall elaborates, “P1EB on Tranche 2 gives Typhoon the true multi-role capability, allowing Paveway IV to integrate with its Litening pod. Enabling us to drop at the moment of our choosing, on targets of our choosing with a multitude of fuse settings, impact angles

The aircrews and P1Eb aircraft will be prepared to conduct multi-role operations from April 1, 2015 with either 1 or 6 (F) Squadron at RAF Lossiemouth


:arrow: Además de los drops, lo nuevo es que nos explica en qué consistirá la futura P2EA (que sustituye a la hipotética P1E"X") y algo de las posteriores P2EB y P2EC, que irán tras la P1EB (a partir de 2014). Se pasa del EOC 1 (EOC1 Enhanced Operational Capability 1) a esos P2E, P3E...

Un detalle sobre el EOC 1 EOC1, sobre Italia en el especial del Typhoon de la revista AIR International de noviembre de 2013:
The company [Eurofighter] is now delivering Tranche 2 aircraft to Block 11 standard [a Italia] , central to which is the EOC-1 (Enhanced Operational Capability 1) software.
The Rafael Litening III laser-designating and targeting pod (currently operated by the AMX aircraft and now being integrated into the Tornado fleet) is likely to be qualified for the Italian F-2000As – given that Tranche 2 and Tranche 3A aircraft will have the EOC-1 software necessary for them to deliver air-to-ground munitions.


P2EA:
- Incluye totalmente los drops 2 y 3 (incluir los elementos AS de estos drops era lo conocido como programa Restore).
- Vuelo y lanzamiento supersónico con hasta 6 bombas Paveway IV.
- Mejora del FLIR Pirate.
- Pod ACMI universal.
- y Mejora del enlace de datos del LDP Litening (mejorando capacidad de reconocimiento).
- también pod LDP avanzado (A Lockheed Martin Sniper targeting pod is displayed below the full-scale model here. Hilditch said that fourth-generation pods like this can be integrated as part of P2E: http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/ ... ming-clear )
- Storm Shadow y KEPD Taurus en 2015: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... on-393331/ y http://www.eurofighter.com/news-and-eve ... -announced y http://www.defenseworld.net/news/9445/E ... o0axeIqPIU

Del especial de 60 páginas de AIR International de noviembre de 2013, sobre P2E, P2EA y P2EB:
Phase 2 Enhancement (P2E) will introduce yet more additional capability that includes the Taurus and Storm Shadow conventionally armed stand-off cruise missiles (CASOM), and the Meteor air-to-air missile. Under current plans, P2E will be delivered on two separate software releases P2EA by the end of 2015 and P2EB by the first quarter of 2017. Work to integrate Storm Shadow/Taurus CASOMs as part of P2EA is now under way with initial flight testing due before the end of the year.
And what about other capabilities such as suppression/destruction of enemy air defences, anti-ship missiles, long-range glide bombs, reconnaissance and more advanced targeting pods? BAE Systems confirmed that studies and plans are ongoing.

Se firma la EP2 para la T2 (T2EP2), que es igual a la P2EA que es igual que el SRP14 step 1 (Scorpion: http://typhoon.starstreak.net/forum/vie ... &start=210) , el 30 de octubre de 2013:
New Development Contract for Eurofighter Typhoon
Oct 30, 2013

A major new Development Contract which will pave the way for continuous capability enhancements of the Eurofighter Typhoon has been signed by Eurofighter Jagdflugzeug GmbH and the NATO Eurofighter and Tornado Management Agency (NETMA).

The package (known as Evolution Package 2) will be delivered by the end of 2015. The Contract signing was announced on Wednesday 30th October in South Korea at the Seoul International Aerospace & Defence Exhibition 2013.

Evolution Package 2 consists of a number of improvements including enhancements to the major avionics sensor such as the Radar and the Defensive Aids Sub Systems (DASS) of the Eurofighter Typhoon. It also includes enhancements designed to cater for the latest operational requests of Customers and important enhancements to the Multifunction Information and Distribution System (MIDS). In addition, the package will include further improvements to the Flight Control System (FCS) and the Utility Control System (UCS) that will allow the Eurofighter Typhoon to be more compatible with evolving requirements within the Commercial Aviation air space environment.

Alberto Gutierrez, Chief Executive Officer of Eurofighter GmbH, said: “The signature of this Contract represents a significant milestone for what is known as the Phase 2 Enhancement programme for the Eurofighter Typhoon. It brings with it a whole raft of enhancements designed to ensure the capability package we offer our customers is the best on offer anywhere in the world.”

Jesus Pinillos Prieto, General Manager of NETMA, said: “Eurofighter Typhoon was designed, from the outset, for capability growth, and this package of enhancements is further evidence that we are building on this fundamental strength. It is something we firmly believe sets us apart from the competition.”

This new Development Contract follows the Meteor Integration Contract signed at the Paris Air Show in June 2013. It secures the integration of the world’s most advanced next generation Beyond Visual Range Air-to-Air Missile on to the Eurofighter Typhoon.

http://www.eurofighter.com/media/news0/ ... phoon.html
http://www.asdnews.com/news-51887/New_D ... hoon__.htm

The EP2 package was recently signed, for delivery by the end of 2015. It contains various avionics and other upgrades, including modifications to the jet’s current Captor-M radar to allow firing of the MBDA Meteor BVRAAM.
http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/ ... ming-clear

Noticia jugosa sobre evolucuión del caza, noviembre de 2013 en el Dubai Air Show:
Eurofighter Typhoon Path Becoming Clear
Dubai Air Show » 2013
by Chris Pocock
November 18, 2013

The path to a fully multi-role Eurofighter Typhoon is finally becoming clear. At a media briefing here tomorrow (Wednesday), the company hopes to announce the first test flight in Italy of an aircraft carrying the MBDA Storm Shadow cruise missile. The jet’s full operational clearance to drop smart bombs came recently. Meanwhile one of the prototypes will fly next spring with the Selex AESA radar.

Neither the Storm Shadow nor the AESA radar is yet under contract. There have been media reports that Saudi Arabian money is funding these integrations. Laurie Hilditch, Eurofighter capability manager, told AIN here Monday that these were being funded by industry. However, the four European partner nations for Eurofighter have agreed the scope of “evolution packages” (EPs) that add such capability. The EP2 package was recently signed, for delivery by the end of 2015. It contains various avionics and other upgrades, including modifications to the jet’s current Captor-M radar to allow firing of the MBDA Meteor BVRAAM.

Hilditch said that the program “was trying to make intelligent choices about weapons integration–the choices and sequence.” The Storm Shadow integration will likely form part of the Phase 2B Enhancement Package (P2E-B) for delivery by 2017. The equivalent German weapon–the KEPD 350 Taurus–will also soon fly on a test aircraft (IPA7 in Germany) “because the aerodynamics read across to the Storm Shadow clearance.”

Dubai Show Mock-up

While a Royal Air Force Typhoon flies in the aerial display here in Dubai, the full-scale model of the Eurofighter on the static display line is sporting conformal fuel tanks (CFTs) for the first time. These are being proposed to export customers, rather than the four European partners, although the latest-production Tranche 3 jets for Germany, Italy, Spain and UK do make structural provision for their carriage. According to Hilditch, the CFTs provide weapons carriage flexibility as well as longer range in air-surface missions. “Our preferred long-range attack configuration is two Storm Shadows, one on each center-wing pylon, plus CFTs and a supersonic fuel tank on the centerline. That allows us to retain the full air-to-air missile set for the swing role.”

A Lockheed Martin Sniper targeting pod is displayed below the full-scale model here. Hilditch said that fourth-generation pods like this can be integrated as part of P2E. The four partner nations chose the Israeli Litening pod, so the alternative Thales Damocles pod was integrated as part of the Al-Salam contract for the Royal Saudi Air Force. Of note, the Royal Saudi Air Force already flies the Sniper pod.

A model of the Selex E-scan (AESA) radar with its moving, wide-field-of-view antenna can be found in the Eurofighter display building outside the main hall. Debate rages between rival radar houses about the pros and cons of repositioning AESA arrays, but Hilditch said, “We’ve done a lot of work on the e-scan proposal.” Eurofighter is planning to fly two jets with the E-scan radar, the single-seat IPA5 and the twin-seat IPA8. “The E-scan radar will be available to the market when our current and potential customers need it,” the company said.

Eurofighter has made only passing reference to the electronic attack (EA) possibilities that are an inherent capability of AESA radars. The UK is known to be funding research into the waveforms required for EA under the Bright Adder program. This capability would likely be added as part of a Phase 3 Enhancement (P3E) package sometime after 2017.

P3E could also include anti-ship missiles (AShMs), which are likely to be required by current and future export customers. At the last Dubai Airshow, Eurofighter displayed a Marte AShM, but the Saab Rbs15 was in the offer that Eurofighter made to the Indian air force. Hilditch said that the customers could decide which AShMs they prefer.
http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/ ... ming-clear

“A major goal of the tests is to assess the Storm Shadow in flight and to achieve clearance for the full integration on the Eurofighter Typhoon by 2015,”
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... on-393331/

Y más sobre su evolución del Dubai Air Show noviembre de 2013: http://www.eurofighter.com/news-and-eve ... -announced
http://www.defenseworld.net/news/9445/E ... o0axeIqPIU


Mensaje mío del 30 de diciembre de 2013:
Lo peor de 2013:

1) Ha sido descartado en Corea del Sur y en EAU.

2) En España: descubrimos los intentos de venta de nuestros T1, se confirma el descarte de la T3B y también que los grandes recortes presupuestarios afectan mucho a su operatividad.


Lo mejor de 2013:

3) En España: primer QRA del Ala 14. Se alcanzan las 10.000 horas (1.000 de ellas el Ala 14). Sobre primavera de este año nuestros T1 habrían recibido el primer software totalmente nacional OFP-01E.

4) Entrega del 100º Typhoon inglés y del 100º Eurofighter alemán.

5) Se cumplen diez años del vuelo inaugural del primer Eurofighter producido en serie.

6) Hemos visto el mejor vídeo que existe hasta la fecha del Typhoon en acción y es del Ala 14 (dicho en foros internacionales): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQVXa2rK8xU.

7) Ejercicio destacable: Los T1 ingleses se fueron 2 meses a EEUU, para los ejercicios Western Zephyr y Red Flag 13-3. Como detalle, pilotos de Raptor afirmaron que el Tifón con su aviónica avanzada, buena "situational awareness" y gran empuje y velocidad, supone un reto que los F-22 no se encuentran cuando se enfrentan a F-15, F-16 y F-18.

8 ) Nuevo CEO de Eurofighter, el español Alberto Gutiérrez, que buscará reducir el coste del ciclo de vida y acelerar la integración de mejoras. En Cassidian (ahora Airbus DS) opinan que cambiar la gestión del programa es una prioridad, que hay que simplificarla y agilizarla.

9) Baréin, nuevo posible cliente (12 aviones).

10) Tras 7 años, este tema del Typhoon alcanza las 300 páginas :wink:

11) Lo que nos contó Menacho de su visita a Albacete por el TLP, las pocas horas de vuelo pero lo excelente que es el caza.

12) Grandes noticias del AESA: se instala en un Typhoon y comienzan sus pruebas en tierra. Más tarde comienza la integración de sistemas y ya se han presentado resultados de las primeras pruebas a los países socios, cumpliendo todo lo requerido. Volará en 2014. La T3A está plenamente lista para recibirlo. Y Eurofighter espera un contrato para fabricación a mediados de 2014.

13) Acabaron las pruebas de la mejora P1E (A y B) para la T2, el salto más radical en software del caza. La P1EA ya comienza a estar operativa y la B en 2014. Los ingleses empiezan a bombardear con sus T2.

14) Se firmó la siguiente etapa de desarrollo: el Evolution Package 2 (EP2), también llamado P2EA (Phase 2 Enhancements A), para 2015.

15) Se entregó el Typhoon nº 400 (le tocó a Alemania). Acumulan más de 210.000 horas de vuelo. Y hay 571 aviones firmados para 7 países.

16) Sobre armamento, a finales de noviembre hizo su primer vuelo con Storm Shadow (editado: con Taurus ha sido el 15 de enero de 2014).
Además, ya tiene la firma definitiva para integrar el Meteor (tras el primer disparo en España de un misil de producción en diciembre de 2012).
Y probaron el misil antibuque Harpoon en túnel de viento (están más avanzados con el Marte ER y el RBS-15).

17) Y por último: el primer T3A hizo su primer vuelo a principios de diciembre, y nos contaron las mejoras que suponía. Las entregas a los socios comienzan el año que viene.


P2EB:
- Que sepamos, misiles Storm Shadow 2015 (por presión saudí) y Meteor (2017).
Sobre la integración de ambos en el especial de AIR International de noviembre de 2013:
Meteor: Initial certification work for Meteor integration with the P2E software includes a new series of environmental data gathering trials using production standard missiles. These are already under way in Spain and will be followed by two Meteor guided-firings (known as F1 and F2) at the Aberporth range.
A further six firings (F3 to F8), each designed to increase the Meteor’s launch envelope from Typhoon, are scheduled over the next 18 months. A working group from No.41(R) Test and Evaluation Squadron will provide input that will be particularly important for the operationally representative firings at the end of the firing campaign.

Storm Shadow: Italian aerospace company Alenia Aeronautica is leading the integration of the Storm Shadow conventionally armed stand-off cruise missile (CASOM) on Typhoon.
The Alenia weapons integration team based in Turin has already gained clearance for flutter, FCS and loads in preparation for air vehicle integration trials to be flown in Italy by the end of 2013.
The flutter characteristics of the aircraft will change because of the shape and size of the missile (Storm Shadow is 5.10m/16.8ft long, and weighs 1,300kg/2,866lb).
Other trials will follow during the first quarter of 2014. All Storm Shadow flight trials will involve two load configurations comprising one or two missiles carried on the centre wing pylons.
The current Typhoon-Storm Shadow trial programme is due to start before the end of this year and run for 18 to 24 months. BAE Systems will lead on avionics integration and weapon system performance which occur in the latter stages of the Storm Shadow trials. Under the current plan, BAE Systems will conduct its first test flights in 2014.



P2EC:
- Misil Brimstome (SPEAR 2) (2017/18)
(Y también, según Scorpion, la posibilidad de usar el radaraltímetro hasta 15.000 pies: "RAD ALT limit is currently 5000 ft and yes such limits might be said for example when there is a minimum height defined during dogfight training. With rather modest modifications RAD ALT performance can be increased, about 15000 ft ist targeted as part of "export capabilities" under P2Ec.")

:arrow: Arabia Saudí está presionando para integrarle el Storm Shadow antes, de ahí la fecha de 2015 en lugar de 2018, además de haber pedido el pod Damocles (no pueden tener el Litening) y casi seguro el AASM Hammer (prefieren la Paveway IV pero no les dejan).
Como Arabia quería ya la P1E para darle caña AS a sus Tifones, han recibido ya la versión inicial de la P1E denominándola MR1 (finales de 2012). Obviamente esta versión no está tan depurada como la final que recibirán los socios a finales de 2013. Cuando así sea, los saudíes actualizarán los suyos con ella denominándola MR2.
Gracias a esa MR1 antes de que acabe este año Arabia tendrá el Damocles en sus Tifones siendo swing-role pleno y autosuficientes con armamento láser.
Tienen 24 Tifones. Los 48 restantes pendientes de entrega están finalizando su ensamblaje. Y podrían comprar de 48 a 72 Tifones más.

:arrow: Habrá un "radar 1" AESA listo en 2015 para exportación (con mismo alcance que el actual, que ya es mucho, pero todas las ventajas del AESA); después un "radar 2" AESA en 2017 para los socios (con mayor alcance); y después podría haber un "radar 3" AESA sólo para RU que tiene mayores ambiciones que requieren una antena diferente (basado en los demostradores Bright Adder y ARTS, para ataque electrónico).
Editado: el AESA radar 1 estará en 2017, dos años después. En 2013 se está probando el AESA en un Tifón en el suelo.
Además de tener base móvil, el AESA tendrá el doble de módulos T/R que el del Rafale, y la antena será también mayor que la del F-35. (Y recuerdo: módulos GaN, no GaAs).
El AESA en versión C (de pre-producción, que es más que prototipo) volará en 2014.


:arrow: Los LERX (o strakes), que fueron probados en 2007 y que figuran en la propuesta "Typhoon 2020", elevan a 35º el AoA máximo y doblan la roll-rate a ese máximo AoA.

:arrow: EDITADO no del artículo, si no de foros: sobre el EP1 Evolution Package 1, del que habrá una versión para la Tranche 2 y otra diferente y más relevante para la T1:
EDITADO BIS: buena parte viene en este artículo que Scorpion no citó de Jon Lake de diciembre de 2012, "Typhoon Evolution", Aviation News: http://es.scribd.com/doc/142050865/Lake ... ation-News (cita también las P3E, P4E y P5E).
En ese artículo se dice que la T2EP1 ya está en servicio (diciembre de 2012) incluyendo mejoras en la radio y corregido cierta cantidad de cuestiones de obsolescencia. Mientras que la T2EP2 está actualmente en desarrollo, que supondrá mejoras en el MIDS, en el DASS, cosas del Drop 1 de la T1 y mejora del radar denominada T2P (equivalente al R2P de la T1).
Además el artículo confirma la cifra que yo decía, que a mediados de 2012 España había recibido 42 Tifones (41 más el IPA4). Y hasta 2015 ese número no aumentará.
"Scorpion, febrero 2013: Block 5 doesn't say to much. Capability is defined by PSCs and SRPs, T1 AC have evolved continuously and they are still being upgraded with the next major step being the T1 Evolution Package 1 which is centred around Drop 3 and will include a number of other changes, including further induction of T2 hardware to increase commonality/interchangability.
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthre ... 426&page=6

Según Jon Lake a finales de este noviembre 2012: http://typhoon.starstreak.net/forum/vie ... 0&start=30
"As far as Bob Smith said, the remaining A-G related bits of Drops 2 and 3 form part of the next Phase Enhancement after P1EB, not the next Enhancement Package. I'll PM you the designation of this as I don't want to write it here before the Combat article appears.
According to Laurie Hilditch at Farnborough EP1 was a relatively minor 'tidy up' and consisted of radio and CAMU mods and small, 'low level obsolescence removal' after Block 9.
Drop 3 was CP180, 181 or 182....."

Y según Scorpion de nuevo en mayo de 2013:
"By the way the discussion between Jon and me concerning the Evolution Package 1 can be clarified. There are two EP1s, the first one is related to Tranche two aircraft and is being introduced. The tranche 1 EP1 is somethig else yet to come as I have explained before."
...
As said you need to differentiate between Evolution Package 1 for Tranche 1 and Evolution Package 1 for Tranche 2 as both are entirely unrelated.

T2EP1 is introduced with the latest block 11 aircraft and covers some minor enhancements to the recording equipment, a HUD fix and a new flare dispenser.

T1EP1 is still under development and will be an enhancements package for Tranche 1 aircraft that will be introduced around 2015 for the core nations and which is also offered to Austria. T1EP1 is centred around drop 3 and the R2P radar software (internationalisation) as well as some T2 avionic hardware and elements of CORP1 (Common Obsolescence Removal Programme). CORP is part of the Supplement 4 contract, which most people know as the "Tranche 3A contract", but Supplement 4 not only covered T3A, but CORP as well.

CORP is split into two parts. CORP1 primarily covers new cockpit hardware such as a new HUD (phase 1), new MHDDs etc. as well as some new navigation hardware (new GPS receiver and GPWS). CORP2 will cover many more new hardware including DASS, radar, PIRATE, INS etc. These hardware changes are in some cases on a SRI level and in other cases on a LRI level. CORP is being step wise implemented, i.e. not all CORP1 & 2 elements will be introduced at once, but step wise. Block 15 aircraft will be the first T2 examples to introduce CORP1 elements, T1EP1 will introduce some elements on T1 aircraft and further CORP1 & CORP2 elements or full content are being added under upcoming upgrades such as Drop 4 for T1s, for block 20 and later block 25 aircraft and likely as a retrofit for existing aircraft.

http://typhoon.starstreak.net/forum/vie ... 3&start=40

Scorpion, julio 2013:
T2EP2 which should soon be announced as on contract will bring some pretty nice capability enhancements with it. Drop 3 is basically through its developmental testing stage and work on Drop 4 is already in parts on the road. Add the recently signed Meteor integration contract, Captor-E that has always been an active development programme since FSD launched [julio 2010] and a number of other development activities that may sooner or later be announced, but that are already underway. (Nota: efectivamente, se anuncia a finales de octubre la firma de la EP2 (Evolution Package 2), parte de la P2E: http://www.asdnews.com/news-51887/New_D ... hoon__.htm )

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthre ... tes/page20


Ya se ha firmado la T2EP2 = P2EA, ver más arriba.

:arrow: Sobre las P3E, P4E y P5E, de Scorpion el 10 de marzo de 2013 en http://typhoon.starstreak.net/forum/vie ... 3&start=90 (en este artículo de Jon Lake de diciembre de 2012, "Typhoon Evolution", Aviation News, se citan también las P3E, P4E y P5E: http://es.scribd.com/doc/142050865/Lake ... ation-News:
The idea is years old and essentially it's one large display that can display a range of information in various windows. A concept pursued by Boeing's upgrade proposals for the F-15 and F/A-18 and not too dissimilar to the F-35s layout either. (añado yo: llamado "Pigeon format" por Eurofighter, y que en EEUU están llamando "God's view" o "God's eye").

P5E is too far in the future and there are only suggestions right now, a new cockpit of that kind is one of the ideas. However everything is subject to change as long as requirements are allowed to evolve and as long as no development contract is awarded. There are some clear ideas for P3E and P4E wrt export capabilities and core capabilities. But as said nothing is fix yet.
So what ideas are been thrown around for P3E and P4E ?

Nothing that I'm keen to talk about at this point in time.

Eurofighter has made only passing reference to the electronic attack (EA) possibilities that are an inherent capability of AESA radars. The UK is known to be funding research into the waveforms required for EA under the Bright Adder program. This capability would likely be added as part of a Phase 3 Enhancement (P3E) package sometime after 2017.

P3E could also include anti-ship missiles (AShMs), which are likely to be required by current and future export customers. At the last Dubai Airshow, Eurofighter displayed a Marte AShM, but the Saab Rbs15 was in the offer that Eurofighter made to the Indian air force. Hilditch said that the customers could decide which AShMs they prefer.
http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/ ... ming-clear


:arrow: Editado: más de Scorpion en mayo 2013: http://typhoon.starstreak.net/forum/vie ... 3&start=40
There have been several airframe changes over the years. In fact many minor detail changes. However, most of the changes require no airframe modifications as new avionic LRIs are usually replacing existing ones. Of course there are several provisions for future growth as well. The more recent T2 blocks feature provisions for the future DASS enhancements 4 & 5 for example. Block 20 aircraft feature upgraded generators, additional cooling, provisions for a future general purpose mission computer, MIL STD 1760E compliant wiring and a high speed fibre optical network complementary the the existing busses.

(DASS Enhancements 4 & 5:
Step 4: Increased ESM frequency coverage in lower bands (C/0.5 GHz-1 GHz).
Step 5: Digital ESM receivers with increased accuracy, sensitivity (emission detection below noise level) and targeting support.)

I said provisions for these enhancements [of DASS]. Implementation is currently scheduled for P3E/SRP16 and P4E/SRP18 respectively. P2EA/SRP14 step 1 will be centred around T2EP2 which will introduce UK DASS enhancements on T2 aircraft, plus further improvments taking advantage of the new hardware introduced with block 11 as well as some display enhancements and fixes for the DASS and improved chaff dispensers.


:arrow: De Scorpion en julio de 2013, sobre que desde 2012 cada país puede evolucionar el Typhoon como quiera por su cuenta, como dijo Jon Lake en un artículo sobre la P1E:
What many still haven't recognised is the very fact that the days of quadrinational agreements being a pre-condition to launch developments are gone in the Eurofighter programme. There is still some concurrency with regards to engineering resources and flight test assets, but these are the only stumbling blocks. Every customer can now outline his national requirements and schedules. If authorised by national authorities any customer can trigger the development of national upgrades and if they affect part that lay within the responsibility of another partner company they can contract it to perform the work required. Other customers join these programmes or buy into it afterwards if they want to do it, enabling the originator to recover some of the costs. In many cases it is tried to merge these national developments with quadrinational developments at a later stage and in some cases one nations developments are adopted by another one on a national base as well. It's still the policy to bring as many partners aboard as possible for the major upgrades at least to spread development costs over multiple partners and to benefit from the economy of scales during the retrofit phase. There are several examples for this such as the austere A/S capability package, the R2P/Q & T2P/Q radar softwares, the UK DASS Enhancements, the German sort lines, the Italian PIRATE firmware upgrade or the Saudis integration of the Damocles LDP, to name a few prominent examples.
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthre ... tes/page19


:arrow: Más de Scorpion, en julio de 2013, sobre cómo se planeó el desarrollo del Typhoon:
The way how the Eurofighter programme production and capabilities
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The approach within the Eurofighter and F-35 programme is pretty much similar. A block 3I is not up to block 3F and the US armed forces actually introduced block 1 examples that are pretty limited in functionality and capability as were those earlier blocks of the Typhoon. Tranche 1 was never supposed to start with a block 5, the approach was always phased and spread over multiple production blocks which represent the smallest breakdown of the production, followed by the intermediate batches and the tranches as top level of PRODUCTION orders. Capabilities of the Typhoon are described by PSCs and SRPs.
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The requirements for Typhoon were laid out in the WSPS which was part of the MDC. The production was covered separetly with the umbrella contract and the fix price tranche contracts which included an inflation clause. It was planned that the aircraft would enter service in an EIS version (block 1), followed by the IOC variant (block 2) and finally the FOC version (block 5). Block 5 aircraft didn't pose all the capabilities and functionalitied as laid out in the WSPS, so yes the customer accepted a lower spec version, while continuing to receive aircraft. The MDC was concluded with SRP 4.1 with the last aircraft delivered being confugred that way. Even SRP 4.1 still missed out some stuff, mostly clearances and software glitches. SRP 4.3 represents the full standard, but has been contracted separately. This incurred additional costs, but also covered stuff beyond the WSPS. All other developments such as the Drops, P1E etc. were never part of the MDC, so claiming these costs as part of the original contracrts is plain wrong. The tranches themselves never defined any capability level to begin with. There is no "substandard" wrt T2 and T3A production standard as such were never defined or contracted in the first place!
In addition the F-35's blocks are indeed capability related, Typhoon's blocks aren't per definition.

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthre ... tes/page20

Sobre modificación específica de Tifones ingleses para Libia 2011 Ellamy (aparte del drop 1):
The war itself did force planners to make some adjustments. For instance, at the outset of the campaign, training was accelerated to teach personnel how to load the cryptological codes for secure radio communications. That was not due until later. Similarly, a software update was delivered, called SM167, which made adjustments in the displays, including how air-to-ground information is entered. The RAF also had to validate that the Litening III targeting pod is category two accuracy compliant to be cleared to hand off targeting data, Patounas says.
http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.aspx? ... 49f94d474b


De Scorpion en respuesta a mí, en noviembre de 2013, sobre que la T3A tenga buses de armas de fibra óptica. Cita CORP:
MIL-STD-1553B = STANAG 3838. all these designations define standards only. MIL-STD-1760 is the definition for a weapons interface bus which is essentially MIL-STD-1553B compliant. Block 20 aircraft [el primero de la T3A] will introduce a weapons interface bus compliant with the MIL-STD-1760E which is a fibre optic network. Block 20s also feature provisions for a new general purpose mission computer (GPMC) and the aforementioned HSDN (high speed data network, se refiere a que la T3A tiene mayor capacidad de transferencia de datos de alta velocidad para aprovechar el incremento de datos del AESA).

There are also upgrades to the generators, ECS and DASS hardware to offer more growth for future developments. The CORP programme is also a largely unknown quantity, though it has been part of the Supplement 4 contract that most know as T3A. 2.5 bln € from the 9.1 bln € Supplement 4 contract are allocated to CORP which covers development of new LRIs and SRIs to eliminate obsolescences and provide more growth. CORP as such isn't T3 specific and elements of it are being step by step introduced on T1 and T2 aircraft.

As far as T3B is concerned the decision window is closing. The core nations won't opt for it, but a major export contract may lead to T3B or not. The final 24 Saudi Typhoons and the 12 for Oman are simply a T3A extension that means that 136 aircraft are built under T3A acc. current contracts. A dedicated production block is induced for Oman.


Y sobre el radar AESA:

As far as Captor-E is concerned Eurofighter has a clear roadmap how this radar should evolve hardware and software wise. Radar 1 is merely the initial hardware standard with the AESA and its repositioner, the new antenna power supply and controller, but retaining the processor and receiver of the current Captor-M with some modifications. Radar 1 is offered to export customers who require an "early" AESA capability and it will be used to assess the radar and its capabilities by the core nations. Radar 1 will evolve in two stages and radar 2 will implement new hardware and software capabilities. Radar 3 is likely to become a further upgraded variant. There are a number of software and hardware modules planned for continous insertion. That's the reason why the radar will come late for the core nations as they want to wait for a more mature and advanced product, instead of taking the AESA at its earliest opportunity. The radar will be introduced as a retrofit to existing aircraft. No current customer has ordered the Captor-E yet, that includes Oman.

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthre ... yond/page3


:arrow: Scorpion en noviembre de 2013 sobre pods LDP avanzados y de reconocimiento [a finales de 2013 sabemos que están mostrando el Typhoon con pod Sniper]:
And what about the Reconnaissance pods for Typhoon? Will they get a stand alone pod? or will they use RAPTOR?
In the short term the Litening 3 poses a limited reconnaissance capability, a mass memory is installed on the pod and the MMI is adapted to support such functions. A common ICD for Gen 3 & 4 LDPs and RecceLite was supposed to be part of P2Ea, dunno whether it's still current or whether it has been further postponed. Raptor probably doesn't fit.
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthre ... yond/page4

A Lockheed Martin Sniper targeting pod is displayed below the full-scale model here. Hilditch said that fourth-generation pods like this can be integrated as part of P2E: http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/ ... ming-clear

:arrow: De Scorpion en enero de 2014 en http://typhoon.starstreak.net/forum/vie ... 52fa45b311 :
As I have assembled this post over at KP, I thought I'm going to share it here as well...

So what lies ahead this year?

1.) After the first flight of BS0116 [primer T3A] late last year, we are looking at the completion of qualification and clearance for the T3A EIS [¿Entry Into Service?] known as block 20.
2.) After the beginning of Storm Shadow integration last year, we'll see further tests to progress the integration, flight testing of the KEPD-350 Taurus is slatted to begin as well.
3.) After accomplishment of the P1Eb/SRP12 flight trials late last year all evidence has been produced and existing aircraft can finally be upgraded, after they have received their national clearances.
4.) Drop 3 flight trials are basically complete and induction on RAF T1 Typhoons should follow in the not to distant future, probably followed by the Luftwaffe and other customers from 2015 onwards.
5.) Drop 4 development is well underway and flight tests should begin in summer.
6.) Captor-E flight trials will begin on IPA5 [en breve] and will be supported by IPA8 from ~summer.
7.) Aerodynamic modifications known as the Aero Mod Kit [ AMK] are probably flight tested this year as well. [de siguiente mensaje suyo: The engine vibration issues have been solved with modifications on the EJ200 MK101-G201 (T2 standard engine). The AMK includes the strakes (modified ones, not exactly the same as those on DA5), new fuselage strakes and extended flaperons.]
8.) P2Ea/T2EP2 development is well underway since quite some time, even before the formal contract was signed on 30th October last year. Flight tests may also begin towards the end of the year or possibly from early 2015.
9.) Meteor integration will be progressed as are certain elements for the next stage P2Eb/T2EP3 prior signature of another contract (I'm not too optimistic this happens this year)
10.) Export campaigns, right now it doesn't look too well in the UAE, but there is still hope in the Middle East, but I'm once again not too optimistic that a new customer will be found this year. Hopefully the UK and KSA [Kingdom of Saudi Arabia] can conclude negotiations on the revised SALAM deal.
[De siguiente mensaje suyo: SPEAR 3 flight trials were also planned for later this year 2014, but only in support of the weapons development programme only.]

Note: Everything being said must be consumed with care as it might be subject to changes.

:arrow: Scorpion en marzo 2014 http://typhoon.starstreak.net/forum/vie ... &start=240:
Scorpion: EP3 will almost certainly be THE elementary part of P2Eb as T2EP2 forms the core of P2Ea!
AIR International monthly (November 2013):
Phase 2 Enhancement (P2E) will introduce yet more additional capability that includes the Taurus and Storm Shadow conventionally armed stand-off cruise missiles (CASOM), and the Meteor air-to-air missile. Under current plans, P2E will be delivered on two separate software releases P2EA by the end of 2015 and P2EB by the first quarter of 2017.

What does mean (P2E will be delivered on two separate software releases
P2EA by the end of 2015 and P2EB by the first quarter of 2017.) ? Does it mean P2EA/SRP14 , P2EB/SRP16 or am I wrong?

Scorpion: Nope it's supposed to be two revisions of SRP14, refered to as step 1 & 2 respectively. SRP16 would be introduced with P3E which hasn't been contracted yet.
How can the the EP2 and P2EA with the same software release (SRP14 step 1) and each of which introduced with different improvements ?

EP2 = DASS,MIDS,FCS,UCS and the Captor-M radar / will be delivered by the end of 2015

P2EA = integration of Storm Shadow/Taurus stand-off cruise missiles / will be delivered by the end of 2015

P2EB = ??? / will be delivered by the first quarter of 2017

Scorpion: T2P2 is basically part of P2Ea, but it's not the whole P2Ea package. SRP14 step 1 is just the resulting capability standard, while the detailed configuration will be described by the PSC14.XX.XX. The DASS, MIDS, MMI, sensor fusion enhancements etc. will all be part of T2EP2, but the whole P2Ea package includes more such as Storm Shadow integration, a new common ICD for Litening 3/4 and RecceLite and some other stuff.

P2Eb will include T2EP3 among other improvements, such as Meteor integration and will generally result into SRP14 Step 2. At least that was the plan, but as everything is subject to change we may see a different SRP designation or not. Right now I consider it as current until this info is suceeded.
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Scorpion: I'm not sure whether P2Ec will ever come. Right now it looks like P2E will end with part "b" and the next upgrade package to come will be P3E.

As far as the integration of a new 4th generation LDP is concerned, P2Ea will introduce an ICD that supports functions of the Litening 4. That doesn't equal its integration, but it eases integration if a customer should request its integration. Dunno whether there are commonalities between the messages used by different western LDPs such as Litening 4 or Sniper. If you read what's said by Mr. Hildritch you'll notice that he says "can be" not will be [se refiere a la integración de un nuevo pod de nueva generación, "tal vez" el Sniper].

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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor josex el Sab Dic 22, 2012 11:39 pm

Orel a nuestros EFAS les estan haciendo / o se le ha hehco algún trabajo de actualización o mejora ? y por cierto que sabes de la integración de armamento ?, como hace unos meses estaban probando GBU´s en los EFAS
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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor Orel el Dom Dic 23, 2012 12:24 am

Josex, todos nuestros Tranche 1 se han ido actualizando (desde 2006 hasta hoy) al último estándar de esa fase, el Bloque 5. Además de eso, en breve a nuestros T1 les incluirán la gran mejora drop 3 (clave del Evolution Package 1 EP1). (Tenemos 17 Tranche 1).
Y nuestros Tranche 2 están a punto de recibir la gran mejora P1E. (Tenemos 24 Tranche 2).

En cuanto a armamento, cañón aparte, todos nuestros Tifones tienen misiles Sidewinder, Iris-T, AMRAAM y bombas GBU-10 (1.000 kg) y GBU-16 (500 kg) y sus equivalentes no guiadas. Los Tranche 2 con la P1E también incorporan el pod Litening 3 y la bomba GBU-48 (EGBU-16, de 500 kg), que es la que estaban probando recientemente. Si te refieres al Ejercicio Tormenta 2012 de marzo, ahí estaban usando operativamente las GBU-10 y GBU-16, aunque siendo iluminados por otro (avión o desde tierra).
Por el momento España y Alemania no han pedido una bomba menos pesada (clase 250 kg). Reino Unido sí, la Paveway IV que les entra en su P1E.

Para aire-aire es una panoplia completa. El Meteor no llegará hasta a partir de 2017. Para aire-suelo la variedad es aún escasa, si bien es cierto que lo que le han integrado es lo mayormente usado en todo conflicto moderno (bombas de guía láser y GPS).
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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor Orel el Dom Dic 23, 2012 1:35 pm

He visto que hay una conversación en el Foro FAS (donde leo pero no escribo) sobre el futuro del EdA, donde participáis JoseLs y Josex.
Ha dicho allí el forista CSF que:
"No es posible subir el tranche. Los T1 se quedan en T1 y los T2 en T2. Solo los T3A pueden subir al T3B ya que son el mismo avión, pero son los cacharritos montados."

Bueno, pues os informo de que eso no es cierto. Porque puede hacerse, claro que sí, y en principio está previsto. Sería complejo y caro (de T1 a T2), pero nadie dice que no pueda ser en una MLU en 2025, por ejemplo. Otra cosa es lo que decidan los gobiernos o cancelen. Por ejemplo, Alemania dijo que dejaría sus T1 sólo para AA, pero por decisión suya. [Y RU retirará los suyos tempranamente.]
Y es especialmente falso que los T2 no puedan "ascender" a T3, cuando estos últimos (T3A) son casi iguales a los T2, que además están listos para admitir la antena AESA y TVC. Os puedo asegurar que los T2 más tarde o más temprano se "subirán" al último estándar. Esto sí que lo han afirmado oficialmente todos los socios, porque el que les interesa es el último estándar.
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