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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor Cifuentes el Sab Jun 30, 2012 7:52 pm

Spano escribió:Buenas.

O bien me :a9 algo inconscientemente o juraría que leí por algún sitio que aun después de a ver anunciado oficialmente la elección del Rafale, iba a venir a España una delegación india a ver los EFA's,

si mal no recuerdo eran los Coreanos los que iban a venir, o ya lo han hecho no recuerdo bien.
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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor Orel el Dom Jul 01, 2012 9:11 am

si mal no recuerdo eran los Coreanos los que iban a venir, o ya lo han hecho no recuerdo bien.

Los coreanos han venido ya otras veces, pero lo gordo será en septiembre, cuando vengan a evaluar el Tifón. Sólo sabemos que vienen a Europa, pero dado que somos los que llevamos la oferta allí, es de suponer que será aquí o al menos que la parte española estará fuertemente implicada en las pruebas sean donde sean en Europa.

:arrow: Sólo una foto curiosa:

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June 30, 2012. Taken at Grosseto airbase in 2010 by Dario Leone, a reader of this blog, the photograph clearly shows the aircraft downed by the F-2000s of the 4° Stormo during DACT: F-18, F-16, Mirage 2000, Tornado and AMX (with the “Tonka” [Tornado] and the AMX not being particularly significant because they are fighter bombers that don’t excel in the air-to-air scenario).
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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor Orel el Mar Jul 03, 2012 4:31 pm

:arrow: Extenso artículo nuevo (en inglés) sobre los Tifones alemanes en Red Flag 2-12 en EEUU, que han impresionado.
En la cita sólo pongo párrafos escogidos por su interés:

- Que los 8 Tifones alemanes recibieron amplias modificaciones para mejorar sus capacidades, que serán implementadas luego a los demás. La más importante es que se ha mejorado mucho el software del radar Captor. También nuevas radios, nuevo mission data (software de misión), y software del sistema de contramedidas, además de otras mejoras clasificadas.
Aunque el cambio más importante es de mentalidad y uso, no de hardware ni software. ¿Por qué los Tifones ingleses son tan superiores a los alemanes? Simplemente, porque la Luftwaffe no ha puesto énfasis en aprovechar ciertos aspectos del caza. Eso lo dice un piloto oficial alemán.

- Habla sobre los combates BFM 1 vs. 1 a cañón contra el Raptor. Pilotos de F-22 Raptor defienden que no hubo una superioridad clara del Tifón sobre el Raptor en dogfight, y que muchas veces "sobremaniobraban" a los Tifones gracias a las toberas vectoriales y su mayor AoA, y que varias veces lograban cañonearlo. Pero reconocen que el Eurofighter es muy bueno, que tiene buena energía y unos muy buenos primeros giros.

Por su parte, el oficial alemán da a entender que sí hubo superioridad del Typhoon sobre el F-22 Raptor en combate cercano, exclusivamente, ya que reconoce la clara superiorida en BVR del Raptor, lógica gracias a su furtividad y prestaciones. Dice que el Eurofighter tiene mejor aceleración que el Raptor y mayor tasa de ascenso.

Y que Raptors y Tifones juntos son una combinación letal:

German Eurofighters impress during Red Flag debut
3/07/2012
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Our focus is the level of training we get here," Pfeiffer says. "We don't have that size of exercise - we don't have that level of training in Europe.
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Because the Luftwaffe's goal was to prove the Typhoon's abilities as a fighter, the service took the opportunity to test new software modifications at Red Flag-Alaska. The idea was to bring the German aircraft up to the same standards as the UK Royal Air Force's Typhoons, Grune says. The RAF's squadrons have traditionally been on the leading edge of fully exploiting the fighter's capabilities, for example during last year's NATO-led operation over Libya.
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"We came here for 'Distant Frontier' for a warm-up programme to test the systems," Grune says, referring to a series of manoeuvres flown with the aggressor unit before the main exercise started. "We adjusted the Eurofighter with some new systems, which we had never used before.
The biggest change was to the aircraft's Euro­radar Captor sensor's software, which was vastly improved, Grune says. New radio, mission data and countermeasures software systems were also added, along with other, classified modifications.
Currently, the adaptations are found only on the eight German Eurofighters ­deployed to Eielson, with the last aircraft having been upgraded on the flight line at the Alaska base.
But Grune says the biggest change was not to the Typhoon's hardware or software, but to the Luftwaffe's mentality for using the aircraft. "Why is the British air force, for example, so superior with the Eurofighter and we are not?" he asks. "Simply because our force didn't put the focus on certain areas.
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As part of the Distant Frontier exercise, F-22s from the USAF's 525th Fighter Squadron faced off against the German fighters in visual-range basic fighter manoeuvres (BFM) combat training.
While Grune does not directly say that the Eurofighters emerged as the overall victors, he strongly implies it.
"I put out some whiskey. If they come back with some good performances, and if you know what the goal is from a BFM setup, and you achieve that, then I will pay you whiskey," he says. "And I paid quite a lot of whiskey."
That account, however, is strongly disputed by USAF sources flying the F-22. "It sounds as though we have very different recollections as to the outcomes of the BFM engagements that were fought," one Raptor pilot says.
USAF sources say that the Typhoon has good energy and a pretty good first turn, but that they were able to outmanoeuvre the Germans due to the Raptor's thrust vectoring. Additionally, the Typhoon was not able to match the high angle of attack capability of the F-22. "We ended up with numerous gunshots," another USAF pilot says.
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says Lt Col Paul Moga, commander of the 525th Fighter Squadron. "Our recent BFM hops with the German air force Typhoons were outstanding. While certain uncontrollable factors such as weather and manoeuvring limitations did not allow for full-up engagements, it is suffice to say that there was much learning across the board. The details of each set-up are privy only to the pilots that flew them, as that is the sacred standard among fighter pilots. One thing is for certain - Raptors and Typhoons are a lethal combination."
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Grune says that the Raptor's advantage lies in its stealth and ability to dominate air-to-air fights from beyond visual range. That is not disputed by USAF sources.
"Its unique capabilities are overwhelming from our first impressions in terms of modern air combat," Pfeiffer says. "But once you get to the merge, which is only a very small spectrum of air combat, in that area the Typhoon doesn't have to fear the F-22 in all aspects."
The Typhoons were stripped of their external fuel tanks and slicked off as much as possible before the encounter with the Raptors, says Grune, who adds that in that configuration, the Typhoon is an "animal".
Pfeiffer notes that the Eurofighter has better acceleration and can out-climb the F-22. ­Additionally, he says that the Raptor sinks when it is using its thrust vectoring capabilities, although one USAF source says he is skeptical of the German claims.
Overall, Grune says the two aircraft are closely matched in the visual range arena, but Pfeiffer says the Typhoon is the superior ­dogfighter.

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... ut-373312/

:arrow: Malasia puede elegir qué parte del Eurofighter fabricar en caso de seleccionarlo como su caza futuro:
Malaysia Can Decide Part Of Typhoon To Be Developed Locally
July 03, 2012
http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v6/newsb ... ?id=677525

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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor champi el Mié Jul 04, 2012 9:49 am

Los italianos llevan 6 Eurofighters a Turquía, para el "Anatolian Eagle 2.012": http://defpro.com/news/details/37068/?S ... 227c7e85d8
13:19 GMT, July 3, 2012 Hallbergmoos | Six Italian Air Force (ItAF) Eurofighter Typhoons from the 4th Wing in Grosseto and the 36th Wing in Gioia del Colle participated in the multi-national exercise “Anatolian Eagle” from the 11th to 22nd June 2012 in Turkey.

The renowned exercise took place at Konya air base and saw participation from around 80 aircraft from Turkey, Italy, Jordan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and NATO.

For the fifth time, the Italian Air Force Eurofighter Typhoons played a major role in the exercise which is designed to enhance operations in complex combat environments and develop the interoperability of different air forces.

“Anatolian Eagle” 2012 was the ideal setting for the Italian Eurofighter Typhoons to share their combat experience gained in Libya last year and to demonstrate the aircraft’s air patrolling and air superiority capabilities. NATO’s Operation Unified Protector, highlighted a need for prompt action in situations of international crisis and a need for extreme accuracy, flexibility and seamless integration of weapon systems and this exercise provided an ideal setting for such training.
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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor Orel el Mié Jul 04, 2012 3:25 pm

A ver qué tal se les da. Seguro que bien, como siempre :wink:

:arrow: BAE está cerca de cerrar la venta de 12 Tifones a Omán:
Oman deal for 12 Eurofighters could be worth $2 bln
July 3 (Reuters)
Britain's BAE Systems, battling shrinking European and American defence budgets and eager to recoup lost orders, is close to selling 12 Eurofighter Typhoon jets to Oman, according to sources close to the deal.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/ ... GX20120703
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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor Orel el Jue Jul 05, 2012 3:41 pm

:arrow: Artículo que recopila diversas noticias recientes (ya puestas en este foro) y analiza críticamente las derrotas del Eurofighter en los últimos concursos. Considera, y es algo ya dicho por varios, entre los que me incluyo, que hay que aprovechar las lecciones para replantearse cómo presentar el Typhoon al mercado. Considera clave reducir su precio unitario, algo en lo que dice no se han hecho esfuerzos. Opinión mía: estamos de acuerdo. Como poco los socios deben mostrar mayor intención de integrar nuevas capacidades a futuro. Y, esto sí que ya de ya, deberían integrarle mayor panoplia AS.

Y también analiza lo sabido sobre los Tifones alemanes en Red Flag 2-12. Sobre eso dice lo que ya he dicho: que el buen hacer del Tifón respecto al F-22 en dogfight significa mucho porque el Raptor es una bestia parda también en ese tipo de combate, lo que indica el buen hacer del europeo. Por supuesto, en BVR el Raptor barre. Y que esos eran Tifones alemanes, los peor equipados de los 4 socios (y los de RU los mejor), algo que ya sabíamos. Como ejemplos "gordos", los alemanes no tienen IRST Pirate, su DASS está a un nivel muy básico y sin señuelos remolcados ni LWR. Y no llevaron el visor de casco HEA Striker.
Luego si logran eso los peor equipados, ¿qué no lograrán los demás Tifones?

EUROFIGHTER TYPHOON BOON! THE LUFTWAFFE TAKE ON THE F-22 RAPTOR AT RED FLAG
by Hush Kit, July 2012

Eurofighter GmbH, producer of the Typhoon fighter, is beginning to emerge from a period of serious self-reflection. Recent sales campaigns have ended in bitter defeat. Eurofighter has watched big prized contracts being dished out to all of it rivals. It lost in Switzerland to the Swedes, in Japan to the United States and in India to the French. Rafale, Typhoon’s closest rival, had emerged victorious in India, the biggest fighter contest in the world. Future enhancements to Rafale are almost certain to be bank-rolled by India, as well as making sales to additional customer more likely for the French fighter. This was disastrous news as the Rafale is very similar in capability to the Typhoon. Could the shrinking fighter market support two such near rivals?

Added to this gloom was the F-35’s seeming invincibility to cancellation. The F-35 is set to become the first massed-produced stealth fighter, available to all (well, almost all).
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To many observers it was looking like Typhoon was a dead duck, that would fail to achieve any more significant export sales.
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Guiseppe Orsi, chairman and chief executive of Finmeccanica one of Eurofighter’s main partners, acknowledged the lessons learnt in an interview with the Financial Times. He stated:
“We will all be around the table and start from what is the competitive price to win a competition, as we do in the commercial field, then we go back and see what each company has to do in order to get that competitive price.”
Eurofighter, reeling from lost bids in India, Japan and Switzerland, is looking at ways to tender for contracts without “additional markups” to the base price in competitions where the specification would normally require them, according to Enzo Casolini, the consortium’s chief executive officer....
“The three of us agree we need to find a way to put this airplane on the market at a lower price and win projects,” Finmeccanica CEO Giuseppe Orsi said at a briefing in London, adding that the warplane program remains “a good money maker.”

However, awareness and public admission of this is a sign that this culture may change.
The aircraft itself is by all accounts excellent, the missing piece to the puzzle of its failure to achieve greater export success may have been found.

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- According to the Col. Andreas Pfeiffer, commander of JG74 “Typhoon is a superior dogfighter” to the F-22 in within visual range combat.
- Typhoon can out-climb the F-22
- Typhoon can out-accelerate the F-22

The confident statements by Pfieffer are significant for two reasons:

1. The F-22 is the aircraft to beat
Of course the Raptor decimated the Typhoons at Beyond Visual Range, a domain where the F-22 is still peerless. But, the Raptor is also one of the very best close-in dogfighters, thanks partly to thrust vector control (TVC).

2. These were German Typhoons
Luftwaffe Typhoons (for the sake of clarity I will not refer to them as ‘Eurofighters’ as the Luftwaffe generally does) are the worst equipped of the partner nations (the RAF aircraft are the best). To put it simply, if the worst Typhoons can put up a decent fight against the F-22, what could the best Typhoons do?

http://hushkit.wordpress.com/2012/07/05 ... -red-flag/

:arrow: Más datos sobre coste operativo del Typhoon por hora de vuelo (añadido a los que puse aquí demostrando la enorme variabilidad que hay y por tanto su nula representatividad): AVISO: Polluelo ha respondido esto:
Falta añadir un pequeño detalle, el estudio fué encargado por una empresa llamada Saab.
Lo mismo tiene su importancia .....
Esas cifras no se las cree nadie.

July 4, 2012
The study conducted by IHS Jane's Aerospace and Defense Consulting, compared the operational costs of the Gripen, Lockheed Martin F-16, Boeing F/A-18 Super Hornet, Dassault’s Rafale, Eurofighter Typhoon and the F-35 aircraft.

The figure for the Rafale was USD 16500 per flying hour and number for the Eurofighter Typhoon, derived from British Parliamentary figures and seeming to cover only fuel usage, was USD 8200. But Jane’s estimate of the actual Cost Per Flying Hour for the Eurofighter, keeping in mind supplies and scheduled maintenance raised the figure up to USD 18000.

http://www.stratpost.com/gripen-operati ... ters-janes
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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor champi el Jue Jul 05, 2012 11:20 pm

Si quereis escuchar a "Nagging Nora" (la voz del Eurofighter) pinchad aquí: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -jets.html

Por cierto, la chica en realidad se llama Sue Milne y trabaja para EADS. Esto me hizo gracia:
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‘If you don’t listen, she gets harsher and louder in both tone and volume,’ she said.
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Lo que me faltaba, tener que aguantar también las broncas del ordenador... :b9
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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor Orel el Dom Jul 08, 2012 4:01 pm

:arrow: Dado el éxito del DASS Praetorian del Typhoon en Libia el año pasado, Selex busca mercado para sus sistemas de defensa electrónica, sobretodo en Asia (India, Kuwait, EAU...). Recuerdo lo que ya puse: que los Eurofighter ingleses en Libia, además de dar defensa aérea para su paquete de aviones, de buscar objetivos y de bombardearlos, también protegían a sus compañeros electrónicamente con el DASS dadas sus capacidades.

Sobre la tecnología AESA de Selex, el primer Gripen con AESA Raven está a punto de volar como ya sabemos. Sobre el del Typhoon repiten que el primero con AESA volará el año que viene (2013). Repite que en vez de los +/- 60º de campo de visión de los actuales AESA, tendrá +/- 90º gracias a la base móvil (la mayoría de fuentes coinciden en +/- 100º). Y que esa ventaja compensa con creces cualquier desventaja que pueda suponer la base móvil.

También están pendiente de desarrollar contramedidas IR (DIRCM):
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Farnborough 2012: Selex looks to Asia for defence suite export
08 July 2012

Following the operational success of Selex Galileo’s Praetorian defensive aids suite aboard the Eurofighter Typhoon in Libya, the company is looking to take this and other systems to export.
Praetorian is now ‘operationally proven’ as a result of the operation, and the company is looking at countries such as India, Kuwait and the UAE as potential target markets for its aircraft-based systems.
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With regards to the Raven ESOS [AESA] for the Gripen aircraft, Mason said: ‘We’re about to deliver the first radar to Saab in the next few weeks, and all being well it should be shown at Farnborough [air show].’ Final testing will then start after Farnborough, Mason said.

‘We are also cracking on with Captor E as an industry,’ he continued. ‘It will fly next year on a Typhoon aircraft. We’re still in discussions with nations; those with money will buy soon.’
He said that for the Typhoon the company has repositioned the +/- 60 degree field of regard in the Raven array, and it is now +/- 90 degrees – so it is a repositioned, rather than a fixed array. ‘This gain in performance is well worth any degradation,’ Mason explained. ‘The Typhoon can see much further because of the repositioner and the aperture.’

Selex is also working on an exportable DIRCM baseline system with Northrop Grumman

http://www.shephardmedia.com/news/digit ... -suite-ex/

:arrow: Y sobre lo que dije en el anterior mensaje y en el del tema del Rafale, en este artículo del Financial Times hablan de la ventaja de Dassault pudiendo presentar su caza ya con AESA y con una mayor panoplia aire-suelo, ventajas que creen fueron claves de cara al MMRCA indio.

Comete un error relevante: decir que el Typhoon en Libia no podía atacar más que blancos grandes y estáticos mientras que el Rafale podía hacerlo con dinámicos. El Typhoon atacó blindados y posiciones artilleras, que no son objetivos grandes ni estáticos. Y claro que podía atacar blancos móviles ya que sus bombas de guía láser lo permiten (GBU-16 y EGBU-16). De hecho, el Rafale disponía del mismo tipo de arma contra blancos móviles: las bombas láser (GBU-12 y GBU-22). Porque hasta este año no tienen un AASM con guía láser que permite atacar móviles:
Battle-readiness clinched biggest deal
By Carola Hoyos, Defence Correspondent
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In terms of radar, the most advanced systems [AESA] are found in US jet fighters such as the F35, but politics had kept US companies from the final rounds of the tender.
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Finmeccanica was at the mercy of the UK government and its decision over how quickly to integrate the critical technology into Typhoon.
In the end, the French were quicker [en integrar AESA al Rafale] and that, say analysts, helped nudge India’s decision towards Dassault’s Rafale.
Ironically, Finmeccanica is in the process of delivering the Gripen’s radar [AESA], which is still missing from Typhoon.

The number of weapons for which the competing fighters had been approved was another key element of the deal.
Typhoon may have done well in Libya by hitting its targets accurately, but its remit was limited to big bombs that could only be fired at large, stationary targets in unpopulated areas because it has yet to be approved for a wider array of weapons.
In contrast, Rafale carried a varied arsenal of air-to-ground weapons that could strike moving targets and fight incoming fire
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/6829d304 ... abdc0.html

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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor Orel el Lun Jul 09, 2012 5:56 pm

:arrow: Muy importante: hasta ahora se había firmado y comenzado el desarrollo del AESA y había apoyo institucional. Pero no aún firma de adquisición por parte de ningún socio, lo que se considera clave. Pues al menos RU va a firmar el AESA para sus Tifones (y más armas AS), lo que venían dejando caer desde hacía semanas (podéis revisar el tema para verlo). Lo más seguro es que se anuncie en Farnborough. Os recuerdo que en febrero puse dos noticias al respecto de que RU iba a apoyar el desarrollo del Tifón:

Del Financial Times de hoy: David Cameron está a punto de anunciar lo que supondrá un gran impulso para la exportación del Typhoon y que criticamos que aún falte: que los equiparán con AESA y mayor panoplia de armamento AS:
David Cameron is to announce a big push to export the Eurofighter Typhoon jet by equipping it with the weapons and radar whose absence was partly blamed for its loss in a $20bn contest to supply India with a new fleet.
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/ecba39a8 ... z205BcnUFX

Y en Twitter, de hoy:
An important announcement about @Eurofighter_1 technology is expected at tomorrow's briefing. #FIA12 #FARN

Y en Infodefensa, también de hoy:
Eurofighter impulsará el radar AESA para que el avión resulte más competitivo
09/07/2012

Los cuatro países socios del programa del avión de combate europeo Typhoon están instando al consorcio Eurofighter que lo fabrica para que consiga que el caza equipe en 2015 un radar activo de barrido electrónico AESA.
El consorcio formado por las empresas BAE Systems, EADS y Finmeccanica, en el que participan Gran Bretaña, Alemania, Italia y España, alcanzaría así una mayor fortaleza para que su proyecto pueda competir en el mercado internacional.
http://www.infodefensa.com/cache_notici ... itivo.html

:arrow: Y un reportero de Flightglobal vuela en el simulador de cabina del Typhoon en Farnborough:
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-d ... e-eur.html
Quedáos con esta frase:
So the Eurofighter is fast... very, very fast. It easily pushed out to around Mach 1.5 with a full weapons load and three tanks of gas.

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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor dacer el Mar Jul 10, 2012 9:58 am

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... me-374072/
FARNBOROUGH: Eurofighter confirms enhancement programme
By: Craig Hoyle Farnborough
10/07/2012

The Eurofighter (chalet A34- 35, OE12) programme received a major boost at the Farnborough air show on 9 July, with the confirmation that its four partner nations have reached an agreement to introduce a further batch of enhancements for the type.

These will see the Typhoon gain an active electronically scanned array radar, an advanced suite of defensive aids subsystem equipment and MBDA's Meteor beyond visual-range air-to-air missile. Also to be included is the "further development of the air-to-air and air-to-ground capabilities and integration of new weapons" to boost its multirole capabilities, with the latter to include Raytheon Systems' Paveway IV precision-guided bomb.

Eurofighter had scheduled a media briefing with chief executive Enzo Casolini for Tuesday, but news of the development with Germany, Italy, Spain and the UK was released by Prime Minister David Cameron's press office after he visited the company's pavilion on the opening day of the show.

"The further development of Typhoon that we have been working on with our partners is good for the Royal Air Force, who need this capability, good for our export customers, who want it too, and brilliant for the British manufacturers and British workers who are going to benefit," Cameron says.

"We are very pleased that the prime minister paid a visit to the Eurofighter community, and we appreciate all his support for export campaigns," says the Eurofighter consortium.

Approval to integrate the new equipment represents the go-ahead for a Phase 1 Enhancement programme for later Tranche 2 production examples of the Typhoon, dubbed P1EA. Export customer Saudi Arabia is also looking to introduce similar enhancements for its eventually 72-strong fleet of the type, along with the Thales Damocles targeting pod.

Meanwhile, Eurofighter partner company BAE Systems expects to fly the first element of a future P1EB package of equipment for the Typhoon on 20 July, using test aircraft IPA6.
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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor Orel el Mar Jul 10, 2012 3:31 pm

Pues lo dicho ayer, se ha cumplido punto por punto, el anuncio y el anuciante (Cameron) :wink:
Firmarán la integración del AESA, suite EW DASS avanzada y misil Meteor. Y la integración de mayores capacidades AA y AS y más armamento AS (incluyendo Paveway IV. Posiblemente incluya también misiles de crucero y Brimstone/Spear).
Y que los primeros elementos de una posible futura P1EB volarán desde el 20 de julio en el IPA6.
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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor champi el Mar Jul 10, 2012 3:53 pm

Y también de Farnborough, resulta que como no podemos pagar, nuestras entregas se van a retrasar: http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-201 ... 10775.html
By Dan Strumpf

MADRID--The Spanish government Monday said it is renegotiating the delivery schedule for at least some of the remaining 46 of 87 Typhoon fighter jets it has ordered from the Eurofighter defense consortium, a sign of the pressure European defense budgets are under from the region's continuing financial crisis.

The Spanish government is committed to paying for the rest of the multibillion-euro program on schedule after falling behind in recent payments, a spokeswoman for the Spanish defense ministry said. A payment of 309 million euros in February brought the government back on track, the spokeswoman said.

Madrid faces a 720-million euro payment due later this year.

"Spain has a commitment and has the intention of keeping its obligations," the spokeswoman said. "We are in a complicated situation and we are looking for solutions."
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Spain's economic crisis, with the country yet to successfully conclude a EU-backed rescue of its troubled banking system, has put government finances under intense pressure.

"We are aware of the difficulties in Spain due to the financial crisis," a spokesman for Eurofighter said.

Sobre perspectivas de ventas: http://blogs.wsj.com/source/2012/07/10/ ... rnborough/
By Alex Delmar-Morgan
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A spokesman for BAE Systems, one of the three companies in the Eurofighter consortium, said Qatar and the United Arab Emirates remain in talks for the purchase of Typhoon jets. “We are talking to the Qataris quite a bit,” said a spokesman for U.K.-based BAE Systems PLC. Only last November, the UAE, after protracted talks with France’s Dassault Aviation SA for its Rafale fighter jet, asked Eurofighter to prepare a counter offer. Eurofighter responded to this proposal earlier in the year. It expects evaluation to last “months,” the BAE spokesman said.

BAE Systems is also in talks with the Gulf state of Oman to sell Typhoons.
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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor Orel el Mar Jul 10, 2012 5:43 pm

:arrow: La Luftwaffe publicó ayer (9 de julio) en su web un artículo en el que habla de la adaptación que están llevando a cabo para integrar el visor de casco HEA Striker en sus Tifones.

Se está integrando en los Tranche 1 son software SRP versión 4.3, la última de la T1. Destaca lo ya dicho: las ventajas del visor tanto en AA como en AS.
El escuadrón JG74 es el primero en recibirlo. En diciembre del año pasado tenían 6 aviones modificados para usarlo, a finales de este mayo eran 6 más, y hasta finales de este año modificarán otros 12 cazas (SRP 4.3 a 5.1).
Cuenta en qué consiste el proceso de modificación del avión para integrarlo (último párrafo).
Es traducción chunga del alemán, prevengo:
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Al equipar la HEA experimentando un aumento significativo de las capacidades operativas de € luchador. Por la proyección de los datos de vuelo generales, tales como velocidad, altitud, actitud, ángulo de ataque, los datos de la detección de blancos por radar y sensores infrarrojos en el visor del casco del piloto, así como la funcionalidad de reconocimiento de voz y control de voz (DVI - Entrada de Voz Directa) abre nuevas posibilidades para el combate aéreo. El piloto puede mantener una vigilancia constante sobre su objetivo y obtiene toda la información importante en cualquier momento y sin mirar por delante de él en el Head Up Display (HUD) o el multi-función de Head Down Displays (MHDD). Esto le da al piloto de caza € ventajas decisivas, tanto en el combate aéreo y de combate aire-tierra.

Los primeros beneficiarios de las mejoras es la HEA Jagdgeschwader (JG) 74, el comienzo de enero de 2012 su Assignierung las Fuerzas de Respuesta de la OTAN recibió. Por la escuadra en Neuburg del Danubio fueron el FBW 31 "B" situada en diciembre de 2011 en seis euros combatiente HEA estándar para proporcionar la mejor Neuburger los pilotos de Air configuración de combate. A finales de mayo de este año, otros seis se convirtieron en los tramos de combate Euro 1 y 2 en Nörvenich. 12 aviones de combate son más en el curso de actualización para el año 2012 SRP mide 3.4 ó 5.1 y dirigido por la HEA.

en términos generales el proceso de actualización de la versión de software 4.3 paquete de medidas con el andamiaje de la HEA de hardware:
"Canopy En primer lugar, y el asiento de eyección se retiran, entonces todos los ordenadores de los dos espacios principales de instalación de aviónica a izquierda y derecha detrás de la cabina. Luego están los "estantes" estantes con cable que es necesario volver a cablear en varias secciones en el taller en casa ", dijo el oficial. "Las computadoras paralelas se cargan alrededor de 20 a una estación de carga CASSIDIAN desplegado de tierra (GLS) con el nuevo software. Esto tiene la ventaja de que los tiempos de carga a la mitad en comparación con una actualización de software en la aeronave. En la tercera semana, a continuación, los componentes de hardware del sistema de visión montada en el casco (HEA) instalado en la cabina antes de la cuarta semana comienza de nuevo con la asamblea. Al final de la conversión será la armonización del sistema de HEA y en profundidad las pruebas funcionales y las inspecciones de auditoría, antes de que el combate del euro se permite volver a empezar.

http://www.luftwaffe.de/portal/a/luftwa ... pB8d58l4!/
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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor champi el Mié Jul 11, 2012 7:35 am

BAE metiendo cizaña en EAU: http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/07/1 ... UB20120710
Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:54pm IST
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By Rhys Jones

FARNBOROUGH, England, July 10 (Reuters) - Britain's BAE Systems believes the United Arab Emirates (UAE) has "real and genuine" interest in buying 60 of its Eurofighter Typhoon jets instead of the French Dassault Rafale.

"I think the interest is real and genuine as does the British government and we are working hard to put a package together for 60 planes for the UAE," BAE Systems' business development director Alan Garwood told Reuters at the Farnborough Airshow on Tuesday.

"We could tell by the questions they (the UAE government) were asking us that they were serious."

The UAE was expected to finalise a $10 billion agreement with Dassault last year but the talks faltered after the UAE said the terms were uncompetitive and unworkable.

Garwood said the British government's improved relationship with Abu Dhabi, the failure of talks with Dassault and recent new business wins for BAE in the Gulf state make it confident it can clinch the deal.

Stealing back the UAE deal would be a coup for BAE's Eurofighter consortium which earlier this year lost out on a $20 billion deal to sell 126 fighters to India which chose the Dassault Rafale as preferred bidder.

The Eurofighter consortium is made up of BAE, Italy's Alenia and European aerospace and defence group EADS.

Garwood said BAE would also look to tie up a deal to sell 12 Typhoon jets to Oman by the end of the year.

"We'll start formal negotiations with Oman towards the end of August I would imagine. The two governments have targeted it for completion this year and we want it done this year as well," he said.

"I see no reason why we shouldn't be able to do that."

Analysts estimate the sale, which Reuters last week reported was close, could be worth up to $2 billion.

Malaysia is considering buying up to 36 Typhoon jets as well, said Garwood.
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Y aprovechando lo del AESA, ahora intentan meter las TVC: http://blogs.defensenews.com/farnboroug ... ouncement/
Posted by Tom Kington | July 10th, 2012

Moves to add the active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar to the Eurofighter have prompted fresh calls from industry to upgrade the aircraft’s nozzles to add maneuverability.
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The two upgrades are linked, said the official, Salvatore Miglietta, head of military programs at Italian propulsion firm Avio, which is part of the Eurojet consortium that builds the EJ2000 engine for the Eurofighter.

“Placing an [AESA] radar in the nose of the aircraft will add weight to the front of the aircraft,” he said. “The center of gravity of the aircraft moves forward and to counterbalance this you can either put dead weight further back, or a clever weight.”

The need for weight at the rear of the aircraft represents an opportunity to install tilting nozzles that produce vectored thrust, he added.
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Re: EF-2000 Eurofighter Typhoon

Notapor Orel el Mié Jul 11, 2012 3:19 pm

Interesante lo de las TVC.
Toca tocho, pero muy jugoso.

:arrow: Nuevo número de la revista Eurofighter World 2-2012:
http://www.eurofighter.com/fileadmin/we ... 202012.pdf
http://www.eurofighter.com/eurofighter- ... world.html
Habla sobre los Tifones alemanes en Red Flag, sobre la P1E que es el mayor salto en capacidades desde que entró en servicio...
Voy editando para añadir lo interesante aquí:

Un detalle que me interesa es saber que la diferencia "mayor" entre la P1E de los T2 y el "paquete austero" instalado en los T1 Bloque 5 ingleses, es que este último no los hace realmente swingrole (que puedan desempeñar tareas AA y AS simultáneamente) si no que tenían que cambiar de un modo a otro. Además, con el pack "austero" el pod Litening III está integrado menos maduramente y tiene limitado el FoV, mientras que con la P1E alcanza su máximo campo de visión:
Furthermore, the RAF Tranche 1 aircraft received an “Austere’ Air-to-Ground clearance, providing the capability to use the UK Paveway II LGB with self designation using the Litening III designator pod.
P1E will give Tranche 2 Typhoons seamless air-to-ground integration compared to that incorporated under the austere air-to-ground package, and the aircraft will have a full simultaneous swing-role capability, rather than being able to switch to and from air-to-air and air-to-ground operations.
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and with a more mature and advanced LDP integration [la P1E que el "austere package"].
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the latter [la P1E] allows the pod even greater ‘look’ angles than the Austere Tranche 1 clearance

Sobre la P1E, muy interesante (y una vez más: el Eurofighter fue diseñado desde el principio como caza multirol. Detalle: el ASRAAM está integrado digitalmente desde la T1 Bloque 5 inglesa, mientras que el Iris-T no lo ha estado hasta ahora con la T2 con P1E): (EDITADO: otros artículos aquí y aquí2)
P1E: THE BIGGEST BOOST TO THE AIRCRAFT’S OPERATIONAL CAPABILITY SINCE IT ENTERED SERVICE.

Such a claim might, on the face of it, seem extravagant, but the Phase 1 Enhancement (P1E) programme represents much more than an effort to advance the Tranche 2 Typhoon air-to ground capability. Though P1E does integrate the Litening III laser designator pod, Paveway IV and EGBU-16 dual-mode laser/GPS guided bombs, it also does much more than this.
Typhoon was designed from the beginning as a swing-role aircraft.

The Phase 1 Enhancements will be achieved via two separate software releases (SRP 10 with P1Ea and SRP 12 with P1Eb).
The first of the P1E software releases (P1Ea/SRP 10) provides an initial swing role/precision air-to-ground capability, using Paveway IV, EGBU16 and an air-to-surface gun (using the internal 27-mm cannon against ground targets), and with a more mature and advanced LDP integration.

Besides a deeper integration providing an improved Man Machine Interface, the latter allows the pod even greater ‘look’ angles than the Austere Tranche 1 clearance. In addition, SRP 10 will also give Typhoon an increased interoperability capability with coalition forces through an expanded communications fit, with new radios, MIDS enhancements, IFF Mode 5 and a new DGPS (Differential Global Positioning System).

The P1E upgrade gives enhanced capabilities in air-to-air missions, as well as in air-to-ground, with a full digital integration of the IRIS-T air-to-air missile (ASRAAM has had a digital integration since Tranche 1 Block 5), with high off-boresight targeting and firing via the HUD and the helmet. Coupled with the new Helmet Mounted Symbology System (HMSS), this capability will be a game changer in close air combat.

In all, P1E offers an array of additional functionality which includes a host of improvements to a range of systems including Rover, IFF, FLIR, Chaff/Flare and DASS, with improved accuracy of threat detection and enhanced countermeasures technologies, all that without exceeding the contracted budget and schedule boundaries.

P1E(b) will grow the new and improved precision air-to-ground capability to become a full swing-role capability, with the ability to undertake simultaneous air-to-air and air-to-ground engagements. It will add a full integration of GPS guided munitions - Paveway IV, GBU-10, GBU-16 and EGBU-16.
The integration will give both dynamic and pre-planned targeting options, and Typhoon will gain the ability to simultaneously attack multiple ground targets during a single attack run, allowing different bombs to attack their targets from multiple directions and angles. [Eso ya lo hicieron los "austere package" en Libia]

P1E(b) is new software based on a real time operating system and it adds new display formats for the air-to-ground role, significantly improving the already highly regarded Human Machine Interface (HMI), minimising the pilot’s workload in the most complex scenarios and facilitating simultaneous swing-role operations by allowing a pilot to continue a bomb run while at the same time fighting off air attacks.
Pilot workload will be further reduced by expanded and enhanced MIDS datalink functionality, with much greater data transmission capacity notably enhancing the weapon system effectivity in complex scenarios.

There will also be a two-stage delivery of DVI upgrades, with the first package of enhancements increasing the vocabulary to almost 90 commands, and allowing the pilot to request information to be displayed for any target or waypoint by voice command. It will also allow the pilot to manipulate the Laser Designator Pod and even to create a waypoint at a point of interest with just two commands.

Finally, P1E(b) will also include among other additional capabilities beyond the baseline contract, clearance for additional DASS improvements and the new Radar T2P SW [software, que citamos hace unas semanas en el artículo de las pruebas del 17 squadron] version for enhanced AA capability, also provided without exceeding the contract funding and schedule boundaries.

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El AESA:

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En 2015 estarán el AESA y los StormShadow/Taurus, a los que seguirán los Dual Brimstone. En 2016 el Meteor:
The four nation future capability plan is also under evaluation, though it is likely that Storm Shadow/Taurus cruise missiles will be integrated by 2015, with the advanced Dual Mode Brimstone multi-role close air support weapon following.
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The Typhoon will wait until mid 2016 for clearance of the Meteor... and the planned AESA radar will be introduced in 2015.

Y posibilidades futuras, para las que la P1E es la base: bombas planeadoras de largo alcance, misiles antibuque, capacidad SEAD/DEAD (misiles antirradar, etc) y nuevos pods de reconocimiento y para ataque. Además, los CFT, las TVN/TVC, SatCom y MAW y LWR mejorados:
Moreover, studies and plans are already set for a much longer list of capabilities for the Typhoon, with a range of new weapons including Long Range Glide Bombs, Anti-Ship Missile, SEAD/DEAD capabilities and new Recce/Advanced Targeting pods. Then there are conformal fuel tanks, thrust vectoring engine nozzles, Satellite Communications, and improved Laser and Passive Missile Warning systems. The enhancements provided under P1E will build the foundations for all of these further improvements.

Y sobre el nuevo escuadrón español, de Albacete. Recuerda que el 142 esc. ha metido al Typhoon en el selecto club de los escuadrones Tiger (Tiger Meet):
SPANISH AIR FORCE OPERATES NEW TYPHOON SQUADRON

Eurofighter welcomed 142 Escuadrón of the Ejercito del Aire (Spanish Air Force) to the Typhoon family as the second Squadron operating the aircraft in Spain recently.
The new unit, situated in Los Llanos Air Base in Albacete, operating under Ala 14 (14th Wing) replaced its Mirage F.1’s with the new Typhoon fighter. The other Eurofighter units operating with the Eurofighter in Spain are the Escuadrón 111 and 113, both belonging to Ala 11 and based in Moron, close to Seville.
The 142 Escuadrón will bring the Typhoon in the exclusive club of the “Tigers”, a gathering of units sharing a Tiger or big cat emblem - heraldry in Europe - established in 1961 and made famous thanks to NATO aircraft participating in the Tiger meet exercise where they were often brightly painted with tiger stripes.

El motor EJ200:

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Y sobre el ejercicio Distant Frontier de los Tifones alemanes en EEUU, que duró 4 días, justo antes de Red Flag, donde se enfrentaron contra Raptors, lo nuevo es que estuvieron también probando el DASS a tope:
Prior to the start of Red Flag, four Eurofighter Typhoons took part in exercise ‘Distant Frontier’ which was an opportunity for the American and German pilots to get to know each other and fly together before the start of Red Flag. The Typhoons flew 86 of the 88 planned sorties, mainly offensive counter-air (OCA). Major Marco Gumbrecht, Director of weapons and tactics with JG 74, said “We were testing the electronic warfare and DASS capabilities over the ranges”.
The Eurofighter Typhoons took part in eight 1v1 basic flight manoeuvre (BFM) sorties with the USAF’s F-22A Raptors. When asked how he felt flying with the American jets, Unit commander Colonel Andreas Pfeiffer, said: ‘Its unique capabilities are overwhelming from our first impressions in terms of modern air combat, but once you get to the merge, which is only a very small spectrum of air combat, in that area the Typhoon doesn’t have to fear the F-22’.

El MAW versión P1E empezó a probarse en el IPA7 en mayo de 2009:
the Cassidian Germany-owned IPA7... and which also flew trials with the P1E standard Missile Approach Warner from May 2009.

Y primera cita que veo "oficial" del diámetro aproximado de antena radar del Eurofighter. Hasta ahora decía unos 70 cm, pues más bien son 75 cm:
was requiring a sizeable fuselage nose section to accommodate a radar antenna of about 75cm diametre.

Y confirma que el FoV (ángulo de visión) del AESA es de +/-100º, más que de +/-90º (es decir, 200º en total):
when the nosecone houses a big new AESA radar antenna and its re-positioning mechanism to allow a formidable scan angle of 200 degrees.

Curiosa imagen con el misil antibuque RBS-15... y aunque no lo cita el pie de foto, es el DA5 con los LERX, en color amarillo (las extensiones de raíz del ala hacia la toma de aire). Ese prototipo se dió de baja el 30 de octubre de 2007, tras completar precisamente los ensayos de LEX. El avión fue luego entregado a la Luftwaffe donde lo usan para entrenamiento en ponerle cargas externas con el TSLw 3 en Fassberg:

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Y foto de maqueta con RBS-15, en la versión naval propuesta a la India:
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg818/sc ... es=landing

E imágenes digitales con RBS-15 de la versión naval propuesta a India:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dY8O2tinLyU/T ... n%2BIN.JPG
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Y2fFFZY0mcU/T ... hoon+2.jpg
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Sobre los Tifones ingleses en el ejercicio Frisian Flag 2012. Para que veamos la multirolidad de los "austere package" ingleses:
DICKY PATOUNAS, WING COMMANDER, INTERVIEW

EF: How did your Typhoons perform in the Frisian Flag exercise?
DP: Our Typhoons, ground crew and pilots all performed very well on Exercise Frisian Flag.
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We were normally put out front to clear up any enemy forces and would then protect the package until all had left before we closed the door safely behind the last aircraft. When we were swing role we would take the largest number of bombs the furthest distance, service our target, often service another target from a formation that needed our extra bombs and then swing into an air-to-air role to protect the package because we were still carrying a full air-to-air load out.

Y verdades como puños, no menos ciertas porque provengan de la revista de Eurofighter:

- Que la gente que considera que el Typhoon no es multirol porque aún no lance misiles de crucero (porque no tenga una gran panoplia AS) no tiene ni idea de lo que es el diseño y las capacidades de un avión, ni de lo que es la diferencia de calendario a la hora de pedir liberación de capacidades. Y más importante es que tu caza tenga mejor capacidad de crecimiento ahora y menos limitaciones, que el que tenga ya cierta arma más.

- Y otra otra vez más: el Typhoon fue diseñado como multirol desde el principio, requerido así por RU y España (que luego lo ha requerido también Alemania).

- Y, como dije hace un tiempo, que mientras que las misiones aire-aire seguirán llevándose a cabo con aeronaves tripuladas aún por mucho tiempo, las tareas AS irán quedando relegadas cada vez más a los UAV, por lo que un caza excelente en AA tiene mejor perspectiva a futuro. Y F-22 y Tifón son más AA, mientras que F-35 y Rafale están más orientados a AS:
There has been some misunderstanding concerning Typhoon’s inherent capabilities and potential for evolution, which may be caused by a weak appreciation of the design approach used and its impact on the end product. The discussion above hopefully will have shed some light on an arcane subject and cleared some prejudgments.

Some people admit that Typhoon is indeed a superb air superiority fighter, second only to the mythical F-22, but incapable of any other roles beside air-to-air. They compare it with the self-styled omnirole Rafale and conclude that Typhoon is a lesser fighter because at present it cannot fire an anti-ship or a cruise missile. Such a judgment, based exclusively on a certain point in time, is flawed as it measures only the timing of introduction of given capability and is not based on the inherent potential of a design.

Nobody doubts the capability of the Eurofighter consortium of integrating a cruise missile or a recce pod on Typhoon... The true discriminator instead is looking at what will not be achieved in a given design, at any time, because of its in-built limitations. For example Rafale will never be able to have a big AESA radar antenna because of its small frontal section. And even more impossible to have it mounted on a swivel mechanism, so as to increase its scan volume and consequently the fighter combat effectiveness. The propulsion shortcomings is another well recognised critical area where changes are extremely expensive and so far have proven fruitless.
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the Typhoon joint operational requirement of the UK, Germany, Italy and Spain Air Forces was not for a dedicated air superiority platform but for a multirole fighter, as the UK and Spain also needed to replace some strike assets in their inventory.
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When looking ahead at the emerging technologies affecting the conduct of future air warfare, two megatrends appear on the horizon:

1) The air superiority mission will remain the preserve of the manned fighter for the foreseeable future because of the extremely dynamic and interactive nature of modern air combat.
2) The strike missions will gradually move to ever more capable unmanned platforms.
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Looking at other contemporary designs one can say that the F-22 followed a design philosophy (excluding the stealth considerations) similar to Typhoon [se refiere a diseño más AA, de prestaciones, capacidad sensorial... ], whereas Rafale represents a multirole fighter with a strike focus. For what regards the JSF multirole capabilities, it must be noted that its design center of gravity is admittedly in the strike area.

http://www.eurofighter.com/fileadmin/we ... 202012.pdf
http://www.eurofighter.com/eurofighter- ... world.html

:arrow: Otra noticia de Farnborough: los saudíes están avanzando muy rápido en el desarrollo de capacidades AS de sus Tifones. Sus Tranche 2 serán los primeros de todos en tener todas las capacidades AS autónomas. Dicen que es un muy buen avión, que ya realizan tareas QRA y ya han comenzado el entrenamiento AS y que esperan ansiosos la P1E para darle capacidad plena AS:
Farnborough 2012: Saudi Typhoon plans gain momentum
By Tim Ripley
7/10/2012

Royal Saudi Air Force (RSAF) Eurofighter Typhoon Tranche 2 aircraft are to field the capability to self-designation precision-guided bombs this year. The air force will become the first to field fully autonomous air-to-ground capabilities on the Tranche 2 variants.

According to Major Shareef, of the RSAF's 3 Squadron, the service is moving fast to exploit all the potential of the Typhoon, which he described as a "very good aircraft".

Major Shareef told a briefing at the Royal International Air Tattoo at RAF Fairford in Gloucestershire that the RSAF had already practised day and night air-to-air refuelling in the Typhoon. "We have done quick-reaction alert for the first time and have already started air-to-ground training. We are waiting for the Phase One Enhancement (P1E) to provide the full air-to-ground role."

His squadron, based at King Fahd Airbase at Al Taif in southwestern Saudi Arabia, is responsible for training and conversion of pilots using the 24 Typhoon so far delivered. "We have 20 pilots converted and seven in training in Taif about to finish [their conversion course]," he said.
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http://www.janes.com/products/janes/def ... el=defence


Y no me puedo explicar cómo, con la de noticias de gran relevancia que está habiendo sobre el Typhoon, la única noticia reciente en el portal web de Eurofighter es que han creado una nueva app para tablets con una guía del avión :shock: Vale, sí, que en la revista ponen todo lo último... pero poca gente se leerá eso comparado con echar un vistazo a las noticias del portal:

"Eurofighter Typhoon App launched (11 July 2012)
Eurofighter has just released a brand new application for the iPad and Android tablets, offering fans of Eurofighter Typhoon a comprehensive, interactive guide to the aircraft."
http://www.eurofighter.com/media/news0/ ... nched.html

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