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Notapor PelotonRueda el Sab Ago 01, 2015 11:00 am

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Orel escribió:Los Marines declaran la IOC del F-35B el último día de julio

Es curioso como cambian de opinión, en el primer párrafo han recibido piezas de recambio de tierra y ayuda del personal de Lockheed, y en el segundo son autosuficientes en lugares austeros y en buques.

"...qui a toutefois ajouté que les marines ont eu un accès rapide et aisé aux pièces détachées situées à terre et que le personnel de Lockheed s'est révélé d'une aide précieuse..."

“I am pleased to announce that VMFA-121 has achieved Initial Operational Capability in the F-35B, as defined by requirements outlined in the June 2014 Joint Report to Congressional Defense Committees,” said Gen. Joseph Dunford, Commandant of the Marine Corps. “VMFA-121 has ten aircraft in the Block 2B configuration with the requisite performance envelope and weapons clearances, to include the training, sustainment capabilities, and infrastructure to deploy to an austere site or a ship. It is capable of conducting Close Air Support, Offensive and Defensive Counter Air, Air Interdiction, Assault Support Escort and Armed Reconnaissance as part of a Marine Air Ground Task Force, or in support of the Joint Force.”

Habra que preguntarle al Sr. Joseph Dunford (General), de quien recibió la orden para cambiar el discurso.

"...Dunford’s declaration, reported by Reuters earlier on Friday, allows for a 10-aircraft squadron at Yuma, Arizona, to take on certain combat missions until software giving the F-35 its full capability is scheduled to be available by late 2017..."

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Re: F-35 Lightning II

Notapor Orel el Sab Ago 01, 2015 11:04 am

Es curioso como cambian de opinión,...

Con sistemas de armas tan complejos es normal que inicialmente el ejército reciba apoyo de la industria. También es verdad que Lockheed presiona para que las FAS yanquis declaren ya que el F-35 está superando hitos, aunque sea antes de tiempo, para calmar un poco al mercado que está que trina y reduciendo. Y esas mismas FAS yanquis necesitan empezar ya a entrenarse y a desarrollar tácticas a saco con el bicho, no pueden retrasar más, empiecen con lo que empiecen.
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Re: F-35 Lightning II

Notapor elder el Sab Ago 01, 2015 4:46 pm

¿Cómo de energético es un F16B52?
A ver si estamos idealizando modelos de los ochenta...
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Re: F-35 Lightning II

Notapor Orel el Sab Ago 01, 2015 5:44 pm

¿Cómo de energético es un F16B52?
A ver si estamos idealizando modelos de los ochenta...

Mucho. Por ejemplo, Elder, testimonio recientemente puesto por aquí de un piloto de la USAF que voló entre otros F-15, F-16 y Mig-29 (y que combatió varias veces contra F-22):
F-16C/D: The Viper is, in my opinion, what a fighter should be. It is small, nimble, accelerates like a bullet and is a pure joy to fly. Instead of loading it down with bombs, the radar should have been improved to give it Eagle-like capabilities and the jet should have taken more of an air-to-air role. While I said that the F-15 is like a Mercedes, the F-16 is like a Formula One race car. The cockpit is tight and it gives you more of the sensation that you're actually wearing the jet than actually sitting in it. The side-stick controller takes about as much time to get used to as it takes to read this sentence.

I've flown all the C/D versions – Blocks 25, 30, 32, 40, 42, 50, 52. The Pratt-powered Blocks 25, 32 and 42 are good performers, but not great. The GE-powered Blocks 30, 40 and 50, plus the Pratt-powered Block 52 are absolute beasts. The GE-powered fleet is flown by the active-duty F-16 squadrons while Air National Guard and Reserve squadrons operate a mixed bag of GE-powered and Pratt-powered Vipers. I've never flown a jet that will out accelerate the GE-powered F-16 [no ha volado F-22 ni EFA pero da buena idea de lo energético que es]. At low altitude, GE Vipers will step out to its airspeed of 810 knots indicated airspeed like nobody's business. The limit is based on the polycarbonate canopy and not the engine. At higher speeds the canopy starts to get warm due to air friction. At some point the canopy will start to deform if the jet gets much faster. At high altitude, I've had the jet out to Mach 2.05. This limit is due to the fixed air inlet and opposed the F-15's variable geometry inlet.

In his book, "Sierra Hotel: Flying Air Force Fighters in the Decade After Vietnam", Col C.R. Anderegg, USAF (ret), former F-15 pilot and F-4 Fighter Weapons School graduate, wrote this about the F-16: "The pure joy of the F-16, though, was in the furball (complex dogfight with many aircraft), where the aircraft had the edge over the F-15 and a significant edge over everything else. With the F-16's incredible agility and power, the pilot could get close and stay close. He was less a viper than a python gradually squeezing the fight closer while beating down his victim's energy and resistance until the time came for a mortal blow. Chaff might spoof a radar missile or flares might decoy a heat-seeker, but as one pilot said, 'The gun is stupid. You can't jam it and you can't fool it.' The F-16 was a superb gunfighter, and in the furball it was the top cat."

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/how-to ... 1682723379

Y como siempre recuerdo: el Viper (30, 40, 50 y 52) es una bestia parda, ya hablando sólo del aspecto energético... y el Raptor y el EFA le superan. Imaginad cómo son estos dos últimos...

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Re: F-35 Lightning II

Notapor poliorcetes el Dom Ago 02, 2015 10:56 am

Seguro que energéticamente el Tifón supera al block 52?
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Re: F-35 Lightning II

Notapor champi el Dom Ago 02, 2015 11:20 am

Problemas en la fusión de sensores cuando se enlazan cuatro aviones: http://defensetech.org/2015/07/29/f-35b ... more-25386

Respecto a la disponibilidad, preocupa la falta de recambios: http://www.airforcemag.com/DRArchive/Pa ... s-Lag.aspx

Por cierto, dentro de un año exacto el F-35A también alcanzará la IOC: http://www.airforcemag.com/DRArchive/Pa ... -Next.aspx

El F-35C lo hará entre agosto de 2018 y febrero de 2019.

Y BAE completa el fuselaje trasero nº 200: http://www.baesystems.com/article/BAES_ ... -programme
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Re: F-35 Lightning II

Notapor Orel el Dom Ago 02, 2015 12:44 pm

Seguro que energéticamente el Tifón supera al block 52?

Y tanto, Poli, sobre toda versión del Viper y demostrado hasta la saciedad. Si el Viper es energéticamente una bestia parda como dice ese señor no hay adjetivos para el Typhoon y el Raptor. Son el Sol.
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Re: F-35 Lightning II

Notapor champi el Mié Ago 05, 2015 8:35 am

Contratos para el lote de producción IX: http://www.defense.gov/Contracts/Contra ... actID=5598
No: CR-147-15
August 04, 2015

CONTRACTS

NAVY

Lockheed Martin Corp., Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co., Fort Worth, Texas, is being awarded a $431,322,997 modification to the previously awarded Lot IX F-35 Lightening II Joint Strike Fighter advance acquisition contract (N00019-14-C-0002) for the procurement of production non-recurring items. These items include special tooling and special test equipment items that are critical to meeting current and future production rates for the Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps; non-U.S. Department of Defense participants; and foreign military sales customers. Work will be performed in Fort Worth, Texas (35 percent); Palmdale, California (10 percent); Nashua, New Hampshire (8 percent); Preston, United Kingdom (7 percent); San Diego, California (5 percent); Orlando, Florida (4 percent); Marietta, Georgia (4 percent); Torino, Italy (4 percent); Merrimack, New Hampshire (4 percent); Eagan, Minnesota (4 percent); Hauppauge, New York (2 percent); Baltimore, Maryland (2 percent); Alpharetta, Georgia (2 percent); Rolling Meadows, Illinois (2 percent); Cheltenham, United Kingdom (2 percent); Grenaa, Denmark (1 percent); Hoogeveen, Netherlands (1 percent); Melbourne, Florida (1 percent); Salt Lake City, Utah (1 percent); and Garden Grove, California (1 percent), and is expected to be completed in December 2018. Fiscal 2015 aircraft procurement (Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force), non-U.S. Department of Defense participant, and foreign military sales funds in the amount of $431,322,997 are being obligated on this award, none of which will expire at the end of the current fiscal year. This modification combines purchase for the Air Force ($150,136,184; 34.81 percent); Navy ($75,068,092; 17.40 percent); Marine Corps ($75,068,092; 17.40 percent); non-U.S. Department of Defense participants ($75,392,333; 17.48 percent); and foreign military sales customers ($55,658,296; 12.91 percent) under the Foreign Military Sales program. The Naval Air Systems Command, Patuxent River, Maryland, is the contracting activity.
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Este sigue a otro más del mes pasado para HMDS: http://www.defense.gov/Contracts/Contra ... actID=5583
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Lockheed Martin Corp., Fort Worth, Texas, is being awarded a $101,304,341 modification to the previously awarded Lot IX F-35 Lightening II Joint Strike Fighter advance acquisition contract (N00019-14-C-0002) for the procurement of helmet mounted display systems (HMDS) (383) for the Air Force, Marine Corps, Navy; international partners; and the governments of Japan and Israel under the Foreign Military Sales program. The HMDS is a bi-ocular helmet display system that provides the pilot with aircraft/mission data on the visor display. Data consists of flight, navigation, and weapons symbology and video from onboard sensors. Work will be performed in Cedar Rapids, Iowa (65 percent); and Fort Worth, Texas (35 percent), and is expected to be completed in June 2018. Fiscal 2013 aircraft procurement (Air Force); 2014 aircraft procurement (Navy, Marine Corps); and 2015 aircraft procurement (Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force); international partner, and foreign military sales funds in the amount of $101,304,341 are being obligated on this award, $23,397,200 of which will expire at the end of the current fiscal year. This modification combines purchase for the Air Force ($47,086,535; 46.5 percent); Marine Corps ($22,726,422; 22.4 percent); Navy ($15,088,165; 14.9 percent); international partners ($12,166,674; 12 percent); and the governments of Japan ($437,030; 0.45 percent) and Israel ($3,799,515; 3.75 percent) under the Foreign Military Sales program. The Naval Air Systems Command, Patuxent River, Maryland is the contracting activity.
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Y en el mismo enlace hay otro para el ALIS del lote VIII:
No: CR-132-15
July 14, 2015

CONTRACTS

NAVY

Lockheed Martin Corp., Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co., Fort Worth, Texas, is being awarded a $718,299,821 modification to a previously awarded cost-plus-fixed-fee contract (N00019-15-C-0031) for non-air vehicle spares, support equipment, Autonomic Logistics Information System hardware and software upgrades, supply chain management, full mission simulators and non-recurring engineering services in support of low-rate initial production Lot 8 F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter aircraft for the Air Force, Marine Corps, Navy, international partner, and foreign military sales customers. Work will be performed in Orlando, Florida (70 percent); Fort Worth, Texas (17 percent); El Segundo, California (7 percent); Owego, New York (4 percent); Greenville, South Carolina (1 percent); and Samlesbury, United Kingdom (1 percent), and is expected to be completed in April 2020. Fiscal 2013 and 2014 aircraft procurement funds (Air Force, Marine Corps, and Navy); fiscal 2014 other procurement (Navy); fiscal 2015 operations and maintenance (Navy and Marine Corps); international partner; and foreign military sales (FMS) funds in the amount of $676,688,604 will be obligated at time of award, of which $58,751,345 will expire this fiscal year. This contract combines purchases for the Air Force ($89,245,994; 12 percent); Navy ($32,882,908; 5 percent); Marine Corps ($115,576,902; 16 percent); international partners ($280,513,654; 39 percent); and FMS customers ($200,080,363; 28 percent). The Naval Air Systems Command, Patuxent River, Maryland, is the contracting activity.
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También en marzo del año pasado hubo otro para el lote IX: http://www.defense.gov/contracts/contra ... actid=5248
No: CR-054-14
March 25, 2014

CONTRACTS

NAVY

Lockheed Martin Corp., Fort Worth, Texas, is being awarded a $698,032,385 fixed-price-incentive, firm target, advanced acquisition contract to procure long lead parts, materials and components in support of 57 Low Rate Initial Production Lot IX F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) aircraft, including: 26 F-35A Conventional Takeoff and Landing (CTOL) aircraft for the Air Force; six F-35B Short Takeoff Vertical Landing (STOVL) aircraft for the Marine Corps; two F-35C Carrier Variant aircraft for the Navy; six F-35A CTOL aircraft for the government of Norway; one F-35A CTOL for the government of Italy; seven F-35A CTOL aircraft for the government of Israel; two CTOL aircraft for the government of Japan; six F-35B STOVL for the United Kingdom, and one F-35B STOVL aircraft for the government of Italy. Work will be performed in Fort Worth, Texas, and is expected to be completed in May 2015. Fiscal 2014 aircraft procurement, Air Force, Marine Corps, Navy funds and international partner funds in the amount of $698,032,384 are being obligated on this award, none of which will expire at the end of the current fiscal year. This contract was not competitively procured pursuant to 10 U.S.C. 2304(c)(1). The Naval Air Systems Command, Patuxent River, Md., is the contracting activity (N00019-14-C-0002).
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Por cierto, la flota combinada de F-35 (112 unidades + 18 unidades de pruebas) ya han superado las 36.000 horas de vuelo: https://www.dvidshub.net/news/171916/te ... -commander
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Notapor champi el Jue Ago 06, 2015 6:25 pm

Un buen artículo sobre el proceso de pruebas: http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArch ... -Test.aspx

Este piloto formó parte del equipo de pruebas del F-22 y advierte que cuando se puso bajo una intensa presión al equipo (vuelos diarios sin descanso), al final se cometieron errores y hubo gente que no aguantó y acabó marchándose. Para evitar lo mismo con el F-35 aconseja destinar más personal y hacer las cosas con calma. También del mismo artículo:
August 2015
By John A. Tirpak
Editorial Director
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While flight sciences on the F-35B with 2B software is done, Allen said there’s still a lot to do with the F-35A and C models and quite a bit more testing to do on mission systems. Much of the flight sciences work being done now concentrates on carrying external loads with a variety of weapons, in different and asymmetric combinations, to explore as many conceivable contingencies as possible.

Allen said the F-35 is “incredibly stable,” and “I don’t know if I want to admit this, … but it’s incredibly easy to fly. It’s not necessarily easy to employ, but it is easy to fly.”

He said pilots don’t spin-test the F-35 because it won’t spin. “We do departure [from controlled flight] resistance, and then recovery from intentional departures,” he said. “We try to put it out of control and see how it behaves,” but for the most part, pilots don’t have to do anything to recover the airplane; it largely rights itself. Even at very high angles of attack—extreme nose-up attitudes while the jet is moving straight ahead—“the jet’s stable,” Allen said.

The F-35 has a dizzying number of capabilities, he said, and they all have to be tested and refined.

“There’s probably buttons on your [TV] remote, and you … probably have no idea what they do, right? It’s the same concept. There’s just so many things that this aircraft will eventually be able to do.”

A typical day adds up to about three test flights, but they require a phenomenal amount of planning, coordination, assets, and conditions—such as tankers, controllers, chase aircraft, ranges, and weather, to name just a few—that must all line up to make a successful mission.

:arrow: In addition to envelope expansion, the F-35 is actually put through its paces, dropping ordnance, exercising its electronic warfare, and even flying “against” F-16s, though the Vipers are usually targets and not dogfight adversaries. Even live shots are made, against subscale target drones. Weapons drops are performed both to make sure the ordnance separates safely from the jet and also to ensure the F-35’s accuracy. This constitutes an “end-to-end check” that “the kill chain can be completed, from a weapons perspective,” Allen explained.

Ability to Execute
The F-35 has been flown in concert with E-3 AWACS, F-15Es, Navy F/A-18s and E-2Cs, and in interoperability testing with the British Typhoon and ground-based tactical air controllers. However, these are all systems and compatibility tests. Tactics are developed at Nellis AFB, Nev.
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Two years ago, when Allen came to the job, F-35s were available for test about 50 percent of the time, and now “it’s improved to where it stays on the schedule and we fly an effective sortie … between 60 and 70 percent” of the time. “So it’s much improved, and that’s nothing to make light of.” Besides the skills of the maintainers, “the supply chain is always going to continue to improve and grow.” Moreover, test maintainers have direct access to the engineers and experts who designed the systems. “We have a little more at our fingertips, … more expertise, here,” to make sure flight tests happen on schedule.

Broadly, Allen said the F-35s are meeting contract specifications, although “expectations may be a different discussion. :arrow: In its stability, ability to fly at high angle of attack, and departure resistance, it does very well and has performed “better than expected,” Allen said. The F-35 does “exceptionally well” at instrument approaches and as a stable communication-navigation platform, without the need to reset the computers.

The software pieces are tested individually to make sure they work alone—radar, electronic warfare, sensors, targeting system—and then “we start to add things together,” such as how the radar works with the software fusion engine, with electronic warfare, and the Distributed Aperture System that allows the pilot to see 360 degrees in darkness.

“We go out and in a repeatable manner … try to employ the aircraft in the way that we think it will be employed in the near future. And we make assessments on how well it does in each individual mission,” such as offensive or defensive counterair or interdiction.

Ultimately, they “roll everything up in a ball and do more integrated, big-­system-level testing. But that’s all after we’ve done all the building-block tests up ... to that graduation-type exercise.”

One of the challenges of flight testing the F-35 is that it will be used by three different services, whose pilots grew up in different communities and have different ideas of “how something should be displayed,” Allen observed. Display and data management preferences will be different for a pilot coming from an air-to-air system, like the F-15C, versus a mainly air-to-ground system, like the Harrier, and there will be differences in how suitable the pilots think the presentation is. But “we’re not going to develop three different versions of the mission system software,” Allen stated.

Allen, who was also an F-22 test pilot, said the software stability is far more advanced than it was on the F-22 at a similar stage.
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Y ya que lo comentabais hace nada. Otro más que afirma que el F-35 para el primer día y el F/A-18 para después como simple camión de bombas: http://www.janes.com/article/53465/depu ... r-air-wing
Deputy CNO says both F-35 and UCLASS needed for future carrier air wing
Marina Malenic, Washington, DC - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
05 August 2015
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"The F-35 is absolutely essential in the A2/AD [anti-access/area-denial] environment," said Vice Admiral Joseph Aucoin, deputy chief of naval operations for warfare capabilities. "The way we've shaped our air wing, with the [Boeing F/A-18E/F] Super Hornet becoming more of a truck, and the F-35B and C [on the first day of conflict] being able to [penetrate] into those integrated air defences and the Super Hornet partnering with them as the way to go."
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Re: F-35 Lightning II

Notapor Orel el Jue Ago 06, 2015 7:43 pm

Para evitar lo mismo con el F-35 aconseja destinar más personal y hacer las cosas con calma.

Pues como va sin retraso y tal...
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Notapor Oquendin el Jue Ago 13, 2015 8:27 pm

Parece que ya tienen la IOC con los Marines:

http://www.defensa.com/index.php?option ... Itemid=186

(defensa.com) El avión F-35B Lightning II logró la capacidad operativa inicial del US Marine Corps, con un escuadrón de 10 ejemplares en configuración Block 2B listo para su despliegue a nivel mundial, incluso en lugares austeros o buques, el Marine Fighter Attack Squadron 121 (VMFA-121), basado en Yuma (Arizona). Es capaz de llevar a cabo apoyo aéreo cercano, acciones aéreas ofensivas y defensivas, interdicción escolta de soporte a asaltos y reconocimiento armado como parte de una fuerza de tarea aérea y terrestre naval o en apoyo de una fuerza conjunta. Antes de declarar la IOC (Initial Operational Capability) se llevaron a cabo operaciones de vuelo durante siete semanas a partir de un buque de la Clase L, participaron en múltiples grandes ejercicios y fueron evaluados en diversas salidas con armamento.

Representando el futuro de la aviación táctica del USMC, los F-35 remplazará eventualmente la sustitución de tres plataformas: AV-8B Harrier, F/A-18 Hornet y EA-6B Prowler. Ha entrenado y cualificado a más de 50 pilotos navales de F-35B y certificado a medio millar de técnicos de mantenimient, de cara a sumir un soporte autónomo a nivel orgánico a este avión. A la transición del VMFA-121 le seguirá la del Marine Attack Squadron 211 (VMA-211) de AV-8B en el año fiscal 2016 y en 2018 la del VMFA-122, actualmente dotado con F-18 Hornet.
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Notapor Orel el Mié Ago 26, 2015 10:45 pm

Informe reciente de la National Security Network yanqui. Aviso, no pone bien al gordito. No he podido leerlo entero:
http://nsnetwork.org/cms/assets/uploads ... _FINAL.pdf
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Re: F-35 Lightning II

Notapor Orel el Sab Sep 05, 2015 4:22 pm

:arrow: La USAF recibe sus dos primeros F-35A operacionales, "combat coded":
http://www.hill.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123457549

:arrow: Ya sale de cadena de montaje el primer F-35A noruego:
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Securi ... 440787181/

:arrow: El mes que viene RU publica su "Strategic Defence and Security Review" (SDSR) en el que especificarán el tamaño y tipo de fuerza aérea futura que tendrán... importante porque podría dar su cifra definitiva de F-35:
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... si-416276/
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Re: F-35 Lightning II

Notapor Orel el Mar Sep 08, 2015 6:36 pm

Por primera vez un F-35, italiano, levanta el vuelo en Europa:
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/news/p ... light.html
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Re: F-35 Lightning II

Notapor Orel el Vie Sep 11, 2015 10:59 am

El avance tecnológico y el retraso en los programas de cazas: Lockheed ya ofrece un "Advanced EOTS" para el F-35 Block 4, cuando el caza aún ni siquiera está operativo (sólo los del USMC y poco):
Lockheed Martin introduced Advanced EOTS, an evolutionary electro-optical targeting system, which is available for the F-35’s Block 4 development.

Advanced EOTS incorporates a wide range of enhancements and upgrades, including short-wave infrared, high-definition television, an infrared marker and improved image detector resolution... Due to its similarity in shape and size to EOTS, Advanced EOTS can be installed with minimal changes to the F-35’s interface. It will be housed behind the same low-drag window, maintaining the F-35’s stealthy profile. Advanced EOTS production will be completed on the current EOTS line.
Advanced EOTS and EOTS are the first sensors to combine forward-looking infrared and infrared search and track functionality to provide precise air-to-air and air-to-ground targeting capability.
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/news/p ... ystem.html
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