Armas individuales y de escuadra

[Vorlon]

Últimamente parece que ha HK le crecen los enanos.

https://www.infodefensa.com/texto-diari ... especiales
https://contrataciondelestado.es/wps/wc ... OD=AJPERES
Y no serán los últimos.


saludos

[dejece]

Últimamente parece que ha HK le crecen los enanos.

https://www.infodefensa.com/texto-diari ... especiales
https://contrataciondelestado.es/wps/wc ... OD=AJPERES
Y no serán los últimos.
saludos

Valoración técnica 25/40
Valoración económica 60/60

[poliorcetes]

Últimamente parece que ha HK le crecen los enanos.

https://www.infodefensa.com/texto-diari ... especiales
https://contrataciondelestado.es/wps/wc ... OD=AJPERES
Y no serán los últimos.


saludos

Es que lo del MP-5 fue una vergüenza sin parangón. En esta década, un diseño sin retocar directo de los 70, sin raíl ni vainas

[poliorcetes]

I have received confirmation from an industry source that GD-OTS / Lone Star / True Velocity are now out of the NGSW competition while Textron has voluntarily exited the program. This leaves SIG as the only remaining contender. Second, there now appears to be widespread acceptance within US Army / NGSW circles that the 6.8 mm ammunition standard is overpowered and reintroduces many of the disadvantages that 5.56x45 mm NATO standard sought to overcome. Consequently, the US Army is now looking at a compromise requirement with the ability to penetrate level IV body armour to 400-500 metres instead of 600 metres.

RDECOM/ ARDEC had previously developed EPR projectiles in 6 mm, 6.35 mm and 6.5 mm. It seems that these will be re-evaluated in new case designs. The 6.5 mm EPR-style bullet had already been used by SOCOM for its T&E of 6.5x49 mm Creedmoor. So it is straightforward to establish this as a new NGSW baseline standard, adopting a necked-down version of SIG's hybrid 7.62 case. Versus SIG's 6.8x51 mm standard, the new round will be lighter and with less recoil. No official confirmation of any of this yet, nor information on chamber pressures, muzzle velocity and muzzle energy.

The SIG MCX Spear will also be updated. The revised ammunition can be fired with little more than a barrel change, but the weapon needs other modifications to improve handling and efficiency. I understand that the gas system and bolt carrier will be modified.

It is not yet clear whether a revised ammunition requirement will force a reset or simply be the next logical step in the program. Given these developments, the US Army is likely to be under pressure to make an announcement.

[dejece]

I have received confirmation from an industry source that GD-OTS / Lone Star / True Velocity are now out of the NGSW competition while Textron has voluntarily exited the program. This leaves SIG as the only remaining contender. Second, there now appears to be widespread acceptance within US Army / NGSW circles that the 6.8 mm ammunition standard is overpowered and reintroduces many of the disadvantages that 5.56x45 mm NATO standard sought to overcome. Consequently, the US Army is now looking at a compromise requirement with the ability to penetrate level IV body armour to 400-500 metres instead of 600 metres.

RDECOM/ ARDEC had previously developed EPR projectiles in 6 mm, 6.35 mm and 6.5 mm. It seems that these will be re-evaluated in new case designs. The 6.5 mm EPR-style bullet had already been used by SOCOM for its T&E of 6.5x49 mm Creedmoor. So it is straightforward to establish this as a new NGSW baseline standard, adopting a necked-down version of SIG's hybrid 7.62 case. Versus SIG's 6.8x51 mm standard, the new round will be lighter and with less recoil. No official confirmation of any of this yet, nor information on chamber pressures, muzzle velocity and muzzle energy.

The SIG MCX Spear will also be updated. The revised ammunition can be fired with little more than a barrel change, but the weapon needs other modifications to improve handling and efficiency. I understand that the gas system and bolt carrier will be modified.

It is not yet clear whether a revised ammunition requirement will force a reset or simply be the next logical step in the program. Given these developments, the US Army is likely to be under pressure to make an announcement.

What?

[CVR]

La Policía Nacional compra el subfusil Scorpion de la checa CZ para sus unidades especiales. A 2000 euros la unidad.

https://www.infodefensa.com/texto-diari ... especiales

[Vorlon]

La Policía Nacional compra el subfusil Scorpion de la checa CZ para sus unidades especiales. A 2000 euros la unidad.

https://www.infodefensa.com/texto-diari ... especiales

No va mal de precio incorporando mira electrónica, los complementos y los cursos de formación.


saludos

[Vorlon]

I have received confirmation from an industry source that GD-OTS / Lone Star / True Velocity are now out of the NGSW competition while Textron has voluntarily exited the program. This leaves SIG as the only remaining contender. Second, there now appears to be widespread acceptance within US Army / NGSW circles that the 6.8 mm ammunition standard is overpowered and reintroduces many of the disadvantages that 5.56x45 mm NATO standard sought to overcome. Consequently, the US Army is now looking at a compromise requirement with the ability to penetrate level IV body armour to 400-500 metres instead of 600 metres.

RDECOM/ ARDEC had previously developed EPR projectiles in 6 mm, 6.35 mm and 6.5 mm. It seems that these will be re-evaluated in new case designs. The 6.5 mm EPR-style bullet had already been used by SOCOM for its T&E of 6.5x49 mm Creedmoor. So it is straightforward to establish this as a new NGSW baseline standard, adopting a necked-down version of SIG's hybrid 7.62 case. Versus SIG's 6.8x51 mm standard, the new round will be lighter and with less recoil. No official confirmation of any of this yet, nor information on chamber pressures, muzzle velocity and muzzle energy.

The SIG MCX Spear will also be updated. The revised ammunition can be fired with little more than a barrel change, but the weapon needs other modifications to improve handling and efficiency. I understand that the gas system and bolt carrier will be modified.

It is not yet clear whether a revised ammunition requirement will force a reset or simply be the next logical step in the program. Given these developments, the US Army is likely to be under pressure to make an announcement.

Alguien considera que no merece la pena gastar dinero en cambiar armas y municiones ,revolucionando todo lo que esta ya asentado, para los pisahormigas dado que ambos son fungibles y prescindibles.

Tenia pinta de que esta vez si, pero ...

saludos

[poliorcetes]

Yo ando tratando de entender qué ha pasado con textron. No le encuentro sentido a que se retiren tras 20 años


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[Atticus]

Alguien considera que no merece la pena gastar dinero en cambiar armas y municiones ,revolucionando todo lo que esta ya asentado, para los pisahormigas dado que ambos son fungibles y prescindibles.

Las revoluciones son cojonudas hasta que llega el "periodo del terror" y te toca subir a la guillotina. Tan solo recordar que esa postura tampoco carece ni de partidarios ni de respaldo logico. Y sobre eso algunos hemos escrito mucho. No diciendo que esto o aquello es mejor, sino que se estan olvidando las "contras" con una facilidad tremenda. Y esas contras no son precisamente baladies. A la hora de la verdad, los milagros raramente se producen y aqui habia mucho "milagro" prometido.

[Truquichan]

Yo ando tratando de entender qué ha pasado con textron. No le encuentro sentido a que se retiren tras 20 años.

a) No eran capaces de dar el tipo si eran elegidos, o cumplir la parte económica, a saber.
b) El concurso no termina de convencer al ejército a donde va, en las condiciones en las que se ha hecho o el resultado no es el que querían.
c) ha habido un lobby salvaje del resto de fabricantes OTAN al tener que adoptar una patente AD HOC.

Y, se han enterado o les han dicho, que mejor dejarlo.

o d) o e) pero no se me ocurre mas.

[CVR]

Yo ando tratando de entender qué ha pasado con textron. No le encuentro sentido a que se retiren tras 20 años


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Incomprensible.

[Vorlon]

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/202 ... w-program/

Siguiendo con esto, obtuvimos una confirmación independiente de varias fuentes de la industria de que Textron se ha retirado del programa, según se informa, debido a problemas con armas y municiones que surgieron durante las pruebas.

saludos

[CVR]

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2021/11/18/textron-ngsw-program/

Siguiendo con esto, obtuvimos una confirmación independiente de varias fuentes de la industria de que Textron se ha retirado del programa, según se informa, debido a problemas con armas y municiones que surgieron durante las pruebas.

Teniendo en cuenta que el arma de SIG aporta poco, posiblemente la seleccionada será la de LoneStar Future Weapons/True Velocity (ex-General Dynamics), .... si no pasa como con otros programas revolucionarios, SALVO, ACR, ...

[Vorlon]

Esta seguro que a Poli le encanta.

https://fragoutmag.com/the-cmmg-foursix ... -4-6x30mm/

CMMG se enorgullece de anunciar el lanzamiento de FourSix, la primera línea de AR que llega al mercado civil con cámaras de 4.6x30 mm. Con una impresionante capacidad de cargador de 40 rondas, retroceso ligero y poder de penetración a distancias cortas, el FourSix de CMMG está aquí para reinventar el Arma de Defensa Personal.

saludos