Misiones CAS, COIN y contra objetivos de oportunidad

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Re: Misiones CAS, COIN y contra objetivos de oportunidad

Notapor poliorcetes el Jue Abr 14, 2011 12:43 pm

Orel escribió:¿Otra vez estamos con las posibles limitaciones yanquis como cuando el Sáhara? :nonono: :mrgreen: :wink:


como dice el refrán: si me engañas una vez, culpa tuya; si me engañas dos veces, culpa mí­a.

la historia de la relación entre francia e israel es muy clara en este sentido
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Notapor Orel el Jue Abr 14, 2011 1:08 pm

Bastantes esfuerzos ha hecho el EdA para no ser todo "made in un solo paí­s" y para poder controlar aspectos clave (como la creación y modificación de softwares operativos de los cazas). Ejemplos, además de ese del software, como el EFA, el misil Taurus (independiente de la guí­a GPS Navstar)... Pero como dice Polluelo, muchas cosas siguen viniendo de quien vienen, como es lógico.
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Re: Misiones CAS, COIN y contra objetivos de oportunidad

Notapor polluelo el Jue Abr 14, 2011 10:45 pm

Hace un tiempo me descargué de la red un ensayo de Marcelino Sempere, doctor en Historia y miembro del profesorado de la AGA sobre la guerra de Ifni y el papel del EA en ella, mas bien papelón. Y comenta varias veces que a pesar de todo lo que se ha dicho sobre el veto norteamericano es curioso que se usó mucho material de aquel paí­s (T-6, Dc-3, Albatross, paracaidas, munición, etc, etc) y que nadie ha visto nunca ningún documento que pruebe que ese veto existió.

También comenta que el EA se planteó el uso de reactores (en aquella epoca no teniamos mas reactores que los Sabre) pero que lo deshechó por la gran cantidad de problemas en la zona, empezando por el pésimo estado de las instalaciones en Africa y terminando por la escasez de combustible, era imposible totalmente que con los medios que habia disponibles.

El tí­tulo es significativo: EL EJÉRCITO DEL AIRE EN LA GUERRA DE SIDI IFNI: IMPREVISIí“N, IMPROVISACIí“N, PENURIA Y VALOR

Es una lectura interesante y muy cortita, 20 páginas.


http://www.ahistcon.org/docs/murcia/con ... ller02.pdf
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Notapor poliorcetes el Vie Abr 15, 2011 7:50 am

gracias! al kindle directo que va
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Notapor champi el Vie Abr 15, 2011 3:11 pm

Gracias por el artí­culo polluelo, acabo de leerlo ahora mismo. Llama la atención la falta de medios adecuados y la contí­nua improvisación, siendo muy llamativo el caso de los depósitos desechables :shock:
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Notapor Jean Luc el Vie Abr 15, 2011 4:38 pm

poliorcetes escribió:nota mental: opera para android da problemas con el foro


:shock:
Pues con SYMBIAN (y el navegador por defecto) va de lujo... :wink:

OFF TOPIC END :oops:
Invaden nuestro espacio y retrocedemos, asimilan mundos enteros y retrocedemos, esta vez no... la línea debe trazarse aquí, hasta aquí... no más allá... y yo les voy a hacer pagar por lo que han hecho....
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Re: Misiones CAS, COIN y contra objetivos de oportunidad

Notapor poliorcetes el Vie Abr 15, 2011 5:53 pm

Si, con el navegador por defecto de android también va bien, estoy evaluando opera y tiene cosas buenas pero también hace lo que le sale de los pies
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Notapor champi el Mié May 18, 2011 6:18 pm

Algo sobre el CN-235 cañonero: http://www.arabianaerospace.aero/articl ... e-with-atk
Posted on 10 May 2011 in Defence

Jordan takes the CASA transporter and gives it bite. Jon Lake looks at the conversion plan.

US company Alliant Techsystems (ATK) has formally announced that it had been contracted by Jordan's King Abdullah II Design and Development Bureau (KADDB) to convert two CASA/Airbus Military CN-235 twin-engine transport aircraft into light gunships for the Royal Jordanian Air Force.

The programme, revealed at the International Defence Exhibition and Conference (IDEX) in Abu Dhabi on February 20, will see ATK converting a pair of ex-Spanish Air Force CN-235s to an armed configuration.

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ATK will install and integrate its M230LF link-fed 30mm chain gun (used on the Apache attack helicopter) on to the CN-235s, and will also fit new weapons hardpoints on stub wings mounted adjacent to the main landing gear sponsons. These pylons will allow the aircraft to carry a range of armament, including AGM-114 Hellfire laser-guided missiles, and guided or unguided 2.75-inch rockets.

The M230LF cannon will be fitted in the rear fuselage, firing out through an aperture just in front of the port para-door, aping the broad configuration of the USAF's AC-130 Hercules gunships.

The M230 is a tried and tested weapon and offers extremely low recoil. “This is not like installing a Bushmaster,”ATK said at IDEX. It also offers a high degree of combat and cost-effectiveness. “Ten rounds from the cannon can be as effective as a Hellfire missile '' and very much cheaper,”Jed Holzapfel, ATK's group vice president for International Business told Arabian Aerospace.

The aircraft will also be fitted with ATK's STAR mission system, which consists of a package of electro-optical ISR and targeting sensors, including a chin-mounted Wescam/L-3 MX-15D imaging turret.

The MX-15 incorporates a colour daylight video camera with zoom lens, a mono daylight camera with ‘spotter' lens, a high-magnification IR sensor with a four-step zoom, an eye-safe laser rangefinder, a laser illuminator and a laser designator with LRF. The aircraft will also be fitted with comprehensive self-protection equipment.

The two CN-235s being converted to light gunship special mission aircraft configuration have been refurbished and ‘zero-timed' by EADS-CASA, before being flown to ATK's Fort Worth facility for conversion and ‘missionisation'.

They are expected to be modified, delivered and tested by spring 2013, subject to US government export licensing approval. :!:

The aircraft will become dedicated gunships, since the armament and sensor package is permanently installed and is not ‘roll-on/roll-off', though there is some cabin space to allow them to undertake limited transport tasks, or to carry personnel and equipment for self-deployment.
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Por otro lado, otro artí­culo más de opinión, en este caso escéptico sobre el futuro del COIN: http://www.defpro.com/news/details/24641/

Un saludo.
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Re: Misiones CAS, COIN y contra objetivos de oportunidad

Notapor champi el Sab May 21, 2011 10:02 am

Actividad aérea en Irak y Afganistán: http://www.airforce-magazine.com/datapo ... power.aspx
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May 16, 2011—Close air support sorties have increased in Afghanistan by more than 400 percent from 6,495 in 2004 to 33,679 in 2010, according to statistics provided by the Air Force. In 2010, CAS sorties jumped by 5,864 compared to the precious year, following the trend of unabated rise over that seven-year span. During the same period, the number of weapons released in CAS sorties in Afghanistan spiked from 86 in 2004 to more than 5,000 last year. The 2010 total was roughly one thousand more than in 2009. There also has been a substantial increase in airdrops in the Afghan theater, climbing from 2 million pounds of supplies delivered via this means in 2005 to more than 60 million pounds in 2010. Airdrop poundage has roughly doubled each year since 2005, according to USAF's data.

Meanwhile, in Iraq, CAS sorties in 2010 continued the precipitous decline that began in 2009 as US-led combat operations winded down and the transition to stability operations took hold. There were 6,316 CAS sorties in 2010, with just eight weapons releases, compared to 8,061 sorties and 61 weapons drops the precious year. The number of air-released weapons during CAS peaked at 1,708 in Iraq in 2007.

Intelligence-surveillance-reconnaissance activity in Southwest Asia continued an upward surge in 2010, with 28,747 sorties, nearly 10,000 more than in 2009 and nearly quadrupling the 7,400 in 2004. Airlift sorties in the combined theaters grew by 10,419 in 2010 compared to 2009, while tanker sorties remained steady. For airlift and aerial refueling sorties, the trend has been positive since 2004.

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Re: Misiones CAS, COIN y contra objetivos de oportunidad

Notapor champi el Sab May 28, 2011 4:38 pm

Cessna Caravan "para la USAF": http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/20 ... tract.html
By Stephen Trimble

Wichita-based Cessna has beat several foreign competitors for a contract to supply dozens of "light lift" aircraft as the US Air Force (USAF) arms itself and certain partner countries for irregular warfare.

The USAF awarded an $88.5 million contract on 26 May for six Cessna T-128T and 26 Cessna 208B Caravans to be delivered the Afghanistan air force.

Cessna, a Textron subsidiary, beat rival offers from New Zealand-based Pacific Aerospace P-750, which was teamed with DynCorp, and the EADS North America CASA C-212.

The award is part of a two-year-old initiative launched by USAF chief of staff Gen Norton Schwartz to equip both his own service and certain partner countries with aircraft suited to irregular warfare campaigns.

After donating the 32 total aircraft to the Afghanistan air force, the light lift contract includes an option to deliver 15 more aircraft to McGuire AFB, New Jersey, to start training an air advisory corps within the USAF.

The contract also includes options for buying another 24 Caravans in two lots, which may be passed on to other countries which have partnered with the USAF in battles against insurgents and terrorists.

The light lift contract award comes as the air force continues to evaluate bids for a turboprop-powered light strike fighter.

A Hawker Beechcraft/Lockheed Martin team has offered the AT-6B against an Embraer/Sierra Nevada team proposing the A-26 Super Tucano. Embraer is based in Brazil, but intends to install a second final assembly plant in Jacksonville, Florida.

The USAF source selection process does not usually consider whether the aircraft is sourced from another country, but political supporters of the Hawker/Lockheed team has raised concerns about buying combat aircraft from Brazil.

Pues eso, los compra EEUU pero no los utiliza, sino que se los da a paí­ses como Afganistán, y los que se quedan son para entrenar a pilotos de fuerzas aéreas extranjeras. Por cierto, una pena que no adquirieran el C-212.
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Notapor champi el Vie Jun 17, 2011 8:16 pm

Artí­culo sobre el T-6 en la revista Combat Aircraft de julio: http://www.combataircraft.net/issues/latestissue.php

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Notapor champi el Jue Jun 23, 2011 3:10 pm

Italia parece interesada en desarrollar un cañonero basado en el C-27J: http://defensenews.com/blogs/paris-air- ... j-gunship/
Posted by Bradley Peniston | June 22nd, 2011 | Paris Air Show 2011

By TOM KINGTON • PARIS — Alenia Aeronautica has been asked by the Italian military to study ways to convert Italian Air Force C-27J tactical transports into gunships and special forces aircraft.

Under the Praetorian program, Alenia will plan to place weapons and integrated weapon systems on the aircraft, as well as communications intelligence and EO/IR sensor systems on the aircraft.

Announcing the initiative June 22 at the Paris Air Show, Alenia CEO Giuseppe Giordo said the firm would seek export markets for the new version as well as international partners.

Giordo said the weapon would be a pallet-based, flexible add-on to the aircraft rather that fully integrated in order to keep costs down. As an example of pallet-based loads now being added to the C-27J, he pointed to the aircraft on display here, which features a palletized, two-console command-and-control unit.

A source at the firm added that a gun would likely be positioned to fire from the side door of the aircraft when opened.

Giordo has recently traveled to Afghanistan to see Italy's C-27J aircraft in action.

On Wednesday, Giordo also announced that Alenia expected three new C-27J customers in Africa and South America to order a total of 11 aircraft imminently for a combined value of 500 million euros ($722 million).

To date a total of 79 aircraft have been ordered by Italy, Greece, Bulgaria, Lithuania, Romania, Morocco and the U.S.
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Notapor poliorcetes el Jue Jun 23, 2011 3:15 pm

Pues por pura coherencia con el nombre, el objetivo oculto del programa serí­a zumbarle al palacio del Quirinale :c4
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Notapor champi el Jue Jun 23, 2011 8:32 pm

:D

Más "fumigadoras de combate" para Oriente Medio: http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/ ... U%20Orders
Jun 22, 2011
By Amy Butler abutler@aviationweek.com
WASHINGTON

Air Tractor is planning to showcase the armed version of its crop duster at this week's Paris air show and possibly announce more orders, says Lee Jackson, a project engineer on the program.

The company has already secured its first order for the 802U.

Jackson declines to identify its first customer, which is foreign, owing to the customer's request. Air Tractor is providing the platform and a U.S. company is handling integration of the system — also not identified — including a Moog integrated stores and management system, and a fuselage-mounted electro-optical and infrared camera including laser illuminator/designator.

Mike Brunner, director of business development for Moog, says the customer is a strong U.S. ally in the Middle East; the initial order is for 10 units.

Jackson says the agreement with a U.S. integrator is not exclusive, and the company can seek other agreements for potential orders. The company has recently produced about 100 of its varying aircraft annually from its Olney, Texas, facility. This year, orders are near 130, he says. The 802 aircraft was originally designed for crop dusting and use against fires.

The “U”designation denotes the military version, including hard points for weapons and sensors. It can carry 8,000 lb. of payload, including rail-launched and ejected weapons as well as sensors.

The 802U was on display at the 2009 Paris air show and last year's Farnborough Air Show near London. The aircraft on display this year will include the Moog stores management system, as well as a newly integrated Wescam MX-15Di. This is a sensor widely used by the U.S. Air Force. And, this is the first time the Moog integrated stores management and delivery system will be displayed at the Paris air show.

Jackson says the company is working to get approval by the FAA for use of the Wescam. Moog also has a version of the stores management system that can function with the FLIR Systems Brite Star II sensor, says Brunner.
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Re: Misiones CAS, COIN y contra objetivos de oportunidad

Notapor marauderxs el Lun Jul 04, 2011 5:13 pm

No he seguido el post desde el principio, así­ que disculpad si repito algún tema pero ¿Porqué no un C-101 para ataque al suelo? Dotándolo de la electrónica necesaria serí­a un avión barato. ágil y Nacional.
Por mucho que la célula sea antigua, aún lo es más aquella en la que se basa un supertucano.
el C-101 era un gran avión de entrenamiento con unas caracterí­sticas de vuelo muy buenas y que creo que se hubiera adaptado muy bien al rol de apoyo.
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