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Seleccionaron el Rafale, y punto.
Si es por callarle la boca a tales spameadores, sinceramente creo que mejor ignorarlos y contestarle solo con numeros y fuentes fiables.
Orel escribió:Seleccionaron el Rafale, y punto.
Eso es precisamente lo que digo, Dacer. Lo siento si no me he explicado bien Si se hubiera quedado ahí, perfecto. Si hablaran de sus ventajas reales sobre el otro, perfecto. Pero es que han tergiversado muchas cosas, y ahí considero que sí se debe decir algo, en honor a la verdad, jejeSi es por callarle la boca a tales spameadores, sinceramente creo que mejor ignorarlos y contestarle solo con numeros y fuentes fiables.
No, no me refiero a "trolls", si no a foristas con los que era (y volverá a ser) agradable debatir, pero últimamente se volvió un desastre. Por supuesto que a los que sólo van a jorobar no les respondo. Y en cuanto a técnica, números y fuentes, no será porque no pongamos. No me baso precisamente en rumorología para conocer las ventajas de uno y otro, bien lo sabéis.
New Delhi: The Defence Ministry has given its approval for production of eight Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) for the Indian Navy's indigenous aircraft carrier, which is currently under construction.
Govt approves eight LCA Tejas for Navy
The nod to the Naval LCA programme was accorded by the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) headed by Defence Minister AK Antony on Friday last week, Ministry officials told reporters here.
Govt approves eight LCA Tejas for Navy
The DRDO has been working on the development of the naval version of the LCA for quite some and it achieved a milestone after a successful engine run last year.
The aircraft is likely to get on with its first flight testing before the end of this year.
The 40,000-tonne Indigenous Aircraft Carrier (IAC), which is under construction at the Cochin Shipyard, will carry over 30 combat aircraft along with helicopters.
The Defence Research and Development Organisation has also prepared a shore-based test facility at INS Hansa in Goa for carrying out trials of the Naval LCA.
PTI
MoD raises objections over Rafale’s lifecycle cost
Chandan Nandy and Chethan Kumar, Bangalore, March 5, 2012, DHNS:
Date by which contract could be signed may be pushed back
Less than two months after the Indian Air Force (IAF) chose the French Rafale fighter jet for its medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) project, the Ministry of Defence (MoD) has raised objections over its lifecycle cost, thereby pushing back the date by which the contract could be signed with the manufacturers, Dassault Aviation.
Top IAF sources said the two MoD?members on the Contract Negotiations Committee (CNC) have questioned the low lifecycle cost that was earlier worked out in respect of the Rafale which was chosen over the Eurofighter Typhoon for the Air Force’s MMRCA programme that envisages supply from Dassault 126 aircraft for a massive $20 billion, the largest open tender military aviation deal in the world.
The sources said that the “differences” that have cropped up among the CNC members are centred around the Rafale’s lifecycle cost which the MoD representatives have declared to be far less than what it should be.
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The MoD representatives’ assessment that a Rafale’s lifecycle cost should be higher appears to have stemmed from the defence establishment’s historical reliance on Russian aircraft. According to sources, the MoD officials on the CNC are “not satisfied” with the lower assessment of the lifecycle cost.
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The MoD’s disagreement with other CNC members comes at a time when the committee will also have to review other “items” involving the Rafale, including the cost of air frame, engine, avionics, weapons system and spare parts support among others. It is learnt that the MoD representatives raised their objections some time after the commercial bids were opened and continued to object to the low computation of a Rafale aircraft’s lifecycle cost in some recent meetings of the CNC.
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http://www.deccanherald.com/content/232 ... fales.html
(Source: Sunday Guardian; published March 11, 2012)
NEW DELHI --- The Naval version of India's first indigenous fighter — the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA-Navy) — has not been able to obtain the certification needed to make its debut flight because of structural issues.
The Centre for Military Airworthiness and Certification (CEMILAC) refused the certification saying the structure of the aircraft needed rectifications. The debut flight was initially slated to take place by the end of 2010, but was delayed. The US Navy and the European consortium, EADS, are being consulted to rectify the problems.
The two most important features that require rectifications are the landing gear and special controls. The weight of the landing gear needs to be reduced. The movement of the Levcon (leading edge vortex control) too has to be reduced. A Levcon is a small wing ahead of the main wing of the aircraft, at the edge, and is required to have a controlled movement. These features distinguish the naval version from the Indian Air Force's LCA. The LCA-Navy is heavier than the IAF version as it has a landing gear that makes its under-carriage weightier than its IAF counterpart. The Levcon is also missing in the IAF version.
Being built by the Bangalore-based Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) under the guidance of the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA), the LCA-Navy has the primary role of air defence and anti-shipping strike and interception. Fuel dump, an additional feature that the LCA-Navy will have, will help the aircraft land safely by reducing its weight. The first LCA-Navy was rolled out in July 2010 and was supposed to take off by the end of 2010. It may be noted that the carrier-borne fighter's first prototype had its Engine Ground Run (EGR) only on 26 September 2011.
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The IAF LCA Tejas has been delayed already. Its final operational clearance (FOC), which was slated for 2013 will now come in 2014. With the first flight of the naval version too getting delayed, the entire programme has come under criticism.
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Eurofighter 'stands ready' to renegotiate MMRCA bid with India
3/12/2012
The partner nations of the Eurofighter consortium "stand ready" to enter into further discussions with India regarding its selection of Dassault's Rafale over the Eurofighter Typhoon, according to UK Defence Minister Gerald Howarth.
IHS Jane's understands that a revised Typhoon bid has been submitted to India for its Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) requirement.
http://www.janes.com/products/janes/def ... 1065966025
Rafale aircraft shunned by all countries
March 13, 2012
Telugu Desam MP M.V. Mysoora Reddy, in his complaint dated February 27, 2012, had demanded an inquiry into the evaluation process that finalised the L-1 contractor (Dassault) for procurement of the Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft without looking into their efficiency and other aspects. “The alleged manipulation of the evaluation process in picking the L-1 contractor, which resulted in a decision to procure 126 MMRCA (from Dassault), has raised serious apprehensions not only across the country but also worldwide. If a proper decision is not taken, the country's credibility will be at stake,” Dr Reddy wrote.
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He demanded that the inquiry must be completed within 30 days, that those who manipulated the evaluation process be punished.
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels ... ntries-708
Aquí no hablamos de Sujoi Su-30MKI o Rafale o etc. sino de adquirir la tecnología de estos.
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