Misiles y armas aire-aire, aire-superficie y antiaéreos

[dacer]

ummm, yo lo que he oido es que su uso no estara vinculado al uso militar. Es decir, a dia de hoy USA mete errores de GPS en las zonas donde esta actuando militarmente, para evitar que los "malos" hagan uso de coordenadas GPS. Galileo, se decia que no iba a funcionar asi.

[champi]

Respecto al Galileo, se acaba de publicar un informe (todavía no lo he leído) que quizás diga algo al respecto: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/committee ... file=67675

Editado: Esta mañana lo leí por encima y algo trae al respecto:

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As mentioned, in 2010 the EC proposed rules on the service access which are currently under scrutiny of the EP and the Council. The latter has identified one of the main principles of PRS access as follows: ‘Each of them [the member states, the Council, the Commission and the European External Action Service] will decide whether to use the PRS within their respective competences, and it is up to them to authorise users and the uses that may be made of the PRS. The last part of the sentence implicitly refers to defence authorities and military uses.

In line with this stance, but also addressing the question of costs, the EP’s Industry, Research, and Energy Committee, in its Report on the same proposal preceding a vote by the Parliament in September 2011, has taken the view that: ‘Participation in the PRS is optional for each Member State. By the same token, the Member States take individual decisions about the way the PRS is to be used and whether users should pay for this service (in that connection, it should be borne in mind that GPS is free). In any case, the EP suggested that MS should bear the cost and not users. The question of costs then is not yet clarified, as the options range from operating costs of PRS to be borne by users on a non-commercial basis, as pointed out by the Transport Council, to MS discretion on whether charging or not their governmental users, always on non-commercial basis. In addition, some more reservations and disagreements with respect to specific rules on PRS access remain among MS, the Council, the EP and the EP50, however the main issue of using the PRS for military purposes is today overcome.
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Y en apartado de "lecciones aprendidas y recomendaciones" ya no deja lugar a dudas:

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Lesson learned 1: dual-use nature and civil-military synergies

The different perceptions on the rationale of the Galileo programme – profitability vs. independence - among MS played against the common interest of delivering on time an autonomous GNSS to the service of Europe for a wide range of needs. Concerning the latter, MS have only recently come to really accept the possibility of military use of the PRS, which being encrypted and dedicated to governmental use has naturally embedded such prospect. Though Galileo is a civilian system under civilian control, the dual-use principle goes in the direction of increased civil-military synergies in the field of the Common Security and Defence Policy (CSDP) as highlighted by the EP resolution of 2008 on Space and security. Of course this does not imply that the EU must always find a military use of space systems, rather that it can consider them advantageous in terms of rationalization of resources and technological advancement. As in the case of Galileo, the military use represents both an added value and an option on which MS can debate and decide based on European military capabilities needs. The defence and security aspects of Galileo have entailed long and partly successful negotiations with a number of third countries, such as the US, Russia, and China. In addition, many others were also initially invited to cooperate in the programme in light of mutual benefits. This reality should stand as a reminder that in an interdependent globalised world, where space is considered a global common, compromise and international cooperation are possible and should be sought, both for civil and military purposes.

Recommendation 1: taking forward dual-use systems and civil-military synergies

In this respect the EP could reinforce the political consensus about a European dual-use policy and civil-military synergies, also contributing to their definition and improving coordination between civil and military space programmes. In fact, as of today, space programmes are characterized by fragmentation, divided in national and European initiatives based on civil, military and dual-use needs separately. It is indeed a direct lesson learned from the Galileo programme, but represents a very important issue for future technological development in Europe.
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[Orel]

OK, gracias.

[champi]

MBDA avanza en el diseño del Spear 3, que podrá entrar en las bodegas del F-35: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... ws-369995/

By: Craig Hoyle London
Source: Flight International

MBDA has confirmed it has passed two significant milestones in a programme to develop a new precision-guided weapon for internal carriage by the UK's future fleet of Lockheed Martin F-35 combat aircraft.

Dubbed Spear Capability 3, the product cleared both its critical design review and system design review with the UK Ministry of Defence in 2011, says MBDA UK managing director and executive group director technical Steve Wadey.

"We're now focused on the final two years to conclude the assessment phase, which, in 2013 and early 2014, will include subsystem and first flight trials of that weapon," he says. MBDA plans to disclose further details of its activities on the project at July's Farnborough air show.

The UK MoD earlier this month detailed its plans to field a Spear Capability 2 Block 1 weapon system from late 2013, with the enhanced Brimstone 2 air-to-surface missile to equip Royal Air Force Panavia Tornado GR4s. The weapon is an evolution of the dual-mode seeker-equipped Brimstone used by the service in Afghanistan and in last year's Libya campaign. It has also attracted interest from the US Air Force and a number of other potential customers.

"The USAF wanted to know a lot more about the capability of the product and the programme, and where the forward-investment plans are for Brimstone as a family," Wadey says.

Separately, MBDA will also showcase the results of its latest "Concept Visions" campaign at the Farnborough show. The internal study activity is looking at possible air-launched weapons technologies to be used in arming unmanned air systems between now and 2030.

[Orel]

Nueva mini-bomba para UAS (UAVs) de doble guía (láser y GPS), la STM (Small Tactical Munition Phase II)... de tan sólo 6 kg de peso y 55 cm de largo:

http://www.raytheon.com/newsroom/rtnwcm ... _pic05.jpg
http://www.raytheon.com/newsroom/rtnwcm ... _pic03.jpg
http://raytheon.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2068

[champi]

Malasia compra 35 R-77 para sus Su-30: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... et-370927/

By: Greg Waldron Singapore
07:20 20 Apr 2012
Source: Flight International

Malaysia has placed an order for 35 Vympel R-77 RVV-AE air-to-air missiles with Russia's Rosboronexport arms agency.

The missile deal is worth Malaysian Ringgit (MYR) 106.4 million ($35 million), with the first missiles to be delivered by the end of 2012, says Rosboronexport in a statement.

The missiles will arm the Malaysian air force's Sukhoi Su-30 aircraft.

The R-77, referred to as the AA-12 Adder by NATO, is a medium range, active radar-guided missile similar to the Raytheon AIM-120 AMRAAM.

A millón por unidad.

[charly015]

Saludos

Yo he intentado encontrar el dato de cuántos misiles se han exportado en ese contrato y no lo he encontrado por ningún lado.

El único dato que encontré en las agencias rusas es la cuantía del contrato (35 millones de $) pero no cuántos misiles MAA se han exportado.

UN SALUDO

[champi]

Comienza la producción del LMM/FASGW-L. Unas 1.000 unidades para equipar a los nuevos AW159 Wildcat: http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/Con ... les-06829/

Editado: Parece que de momento no hay pasta gubernamental para el desarrollo de las PILUM: http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.aspx? ... 3a55a3b291

[Orel]

Notición: MBDA termina exitosamente la campaña de pruebas del Meteor y comienza su producción.

Durante las pruebas de fuego real se han disparado un total de 21 Meteors.
Tres de los últimos han sido a principios de este año en RU, desde Tornados F2, derribando UAVs blanco Mirach que usaban ECM y señuelos (eran pruebas frente a enemigos usando ECM).
La empresa ya ha entregado 6 misiles para ensayos de carga en tierra, y ya están siendo fabricadas las partes delanteras de los primeros misiles de producción. La línea de montaje final de RU tendrá capacidad para producir 20 misiles al mes.

El misil recibirá la aceptación final este año y las entregas de misiles de producción comenzarán en el tercer cuarto de este año para RU.

Todos los países socios del Meteor (RU, Francia, Italia, España y Suecia) tienen firmados contratos de adquisición menos Alemania, que se espera que lo haga en breve. Hay bastante interés de cara a exportación.
Los Gripen tendrán el misil en 2014-15, los Tifones ingleses en 2015-16 y los Rafales a partir de 2018:

MBDA completes Meteor test campaign, launches production
26/06/2012

MBDA is satisfied with the results of its recently-completed live firing campaign with the Meteor beyond visual-range air-to-air missile (BVRAAM), and will deliver its first production rounds before year-end, says Andy Bradford, the company's chief engineer and head of the project.
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In all, 21 Meteor missiles fitted with telemetry equipment were fired during a development and test campaign
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MBDA will deliver a final performance statement to the Meteor integrated joint project office within the next month, with Bradford saying the design is compliant with its lethality and kinematic performance requirements. It is expected to receive final acceptance later this year, before production deliveries commence in the fourth quarter to the UK.
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The company has already delivered six ground handling training missiles to the programme, and forebodies for the first production weapons are now in build at its Lostock site in Lancashire. Final assembly work will be completed in Stevenage on a line capable of completing up to 20 per month.

All of the Meteor partner nations have now signed production contracts, with the exception of Germany. However, Bradford says "discussions are very advanced, and we expect to be on contract late this year." MBDA is also receiving significant interest in the design from potential export customers, he adds.

The BVRAAM weapon is likely to enter operational use with Swedish air force Saab Gripens in 2014-2015, UK Royal Air Force Eurofighter Typhoons in 2015-2016 and French air force and navy Dassault Rafale fighters from 2018.

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... on-373426/

[Jean Luc]

Orel dijo en el tema del Tifón: Esa era la compra que yo conocía, pero al decirme eso, Charoska, ya pensaba que habría sido algún rollo raro y que sería sólo I+D. Efectivamente, eran 100 misiles Meteor por 100 millones.

Poliorcetes respondió: No son pocas unidades?

Te digo lo mismo que con los TAURUS... no tenemos una amenaza que requiera más de 100 de esos...

[Clarice126]

¿no valia cada Tommy (tomahawk) 1 millón de dolares cada uno? siempre que veo cifras tan redondas me hace sospechar.

[Orel]

En marcha el desarrollo del misil aire-suelo SPEAR (Selective Precision Effects At Range, Capability 2 Block 1 programme), desarrollo del Brimstone:

MBDA sharpens Spear missile design for F-35 integration
27-06-2012

European manufacturer MBDA has unveiled a UK-developed design for a next-generation air-to-surface weapon suitable for internal carriage by the Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

To be shown for the first time as a full-scale mock-up at the Farnborough air show, the Spear concept would use a turbojet engine and a wing kit to provide a stand-off range of about 100km (54nm).



Firm decisions have yet to be made on the final Spear configuration, but MBDA says it will be about 2m (6.5ft) long, carry a multi-effect warhead and use a multimode seeker. The high subsonic-speed weapon will also feature INS/GPS guidance, and be able to receive mid-course updates via an onboard datalink.

The basis of the concept is now in an assessment phase study for the UK Ministry of Defence's Spear Capability 3 requirement. This activity is due to conclude in 2014 with an airframe and propulsion system demonstration using a representative weapon design.

MBDA plans to contract a European supplier to develop a new, lightweight, two-round rail launcher for the Spear missile, and says it has also identified a number of potential engine suppliers.

Beyond its application for internal carriage by the stealthy F-35, MBDA has also released artwork depicting a multi-role-configured Eurofighter Typhoon carrying 16 of the missiles.



http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... on-373453/

[JoseLs]

Te digo lo mismo que con los TAURUS... no tenemos una amenaza que requiera más de 100 de esos...

Sobre los misiles ...

Hombre Jean Luc eso de que no tenemos enemigos suena a chiste ... ¿y los alemanes que enemigos tienen? ¿Y los Italianos? Los 43 Tauros no nos duran ni una semana. Será por objetivos ... otro tema es el de los misiles aire aire que con los que tenemos hay para derribar casi a toda la flota de los dos paises de ahí abajo. pero los Taurus son muy escasos. para un pais como España lo mínimo sería disponer de un centenar ... y a eso sumar los TLAM o lo que sea cuando se pueda ...

Lo mismo con las bombas laser etc que nuestros stocks dan pena. En cambio en aire aire estamos bien. Van a llegar 100 Meteor pero el contrato era por 232 y de Amraam estamos en unos 100 B + 31 C. A eso hay que sumar los 700 IRIS-T para corto alcance. Ya no hablamos de los cientos de Sidewinder que todavía son válidos y por contra podemos contar llegaod el caso hasta los 75 Amraam del ET.

Pero en temas AS estamos de pena. Harm, Maverick, Harpoon en escaso número y con más de 20 años en activo. Y lo mismo para las bombas laser. Y para los EFA va tocando ya haer una compra de Litening III (aunque sea de mínimos).

Y puesto que fuimos los más rápidos en quitarnos las bombas de racimo ( a desarmarnos no nos gana nadie, nos falto tiempo) hay tenemos un vacio que hay que cubrir con armas tipo JSOW, HOPE/HOSBO etc ...

[poliorcetes]

sabes que carga útil lleva?

[Orel]

No. El Brimstone actual mide 1,8 m, pesa 50 kg, tiene unos 20 km de alacnce y va en pilones triples, pero no sé el peso de la carga explosiva. Cada uno puede destruir un carro.
EDITADO: El SPEAR será más grande (cerca de 2 m), tendrá unos 100 km de alcance y va en pilones dobles, por lo que será más pesado, pero cuánto no sé.